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    Whatever you are linking to doesn't work at my office. What song?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokelaw1 View Post
    Whatever you are linking to doesn't work at my office. What song?
    Kumbaya sung by Joan Biaz

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMS View Post
    Kumbaya sung by Joan Biaz
    ---shiver----

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    I think the burden of censorship lies within each individual, or their legal guardian. It's as simple as that. We cannot critique anyone for writing offensive music, as it is an expression of their viewpoint, regardless of how askew it may be to our own. However, parents should be the ones to explain to their kids that "killing jews," or "slappin' hos" is wrong, and should censor it.

    When I was younger, my parents forbade me to watch Bevis and Butthead, because they said "testicles." Did my parents write an angry letter to MTV? No. Did I realize "testicles" was not something to be said to your parents, or to any authority figure? Yes. It was censored to me, due in large part to the diligence of my parents, as it should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whatsthe2ndDfor View Post
    I think the burden of censorship lies within each individual, or their legal guardian. It's as simple as that. We cannot critique anyone for writing offensive music, as it is an expression of their viewpoint, regardless of how askew it may be to our own. However, parents should be the ones to explain to their kids that "killing jews," or "slappin' hos" is wrong, and should censor it.

    When I was younger, my parents forbade me to watch Bevis and Butthead, because they said "testicles." Did my parents write an angry letter to MTV? No. Did I realize "testicles" was not something to be said to your parents, or to any authority figure? Yes. It was censored to me, due in large part to the diligence of my parents, as it should be.
    Dead on! I agree 100%, well, maybe 95%. I think we can "critique" others for writing that music. We are free to do so as they are to write it.
    Regardless of who writes it, who sells it, PARENTS are the important "censors" when it comes to kids.
    But...what do you think about PRIVATE bsuiness choosing to sell music like this? Hard core HATE music. Music that DOES say we would be better off with all non-whites dead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokelaw1 View Post
    But...what do you think about PRIVATE bsuiness choosing to sell music like this? Hard core HATE music. Music that DOES say we would be better off with all non-whites dead?
    That's their business. I can choose to spend my money there, or not. Just because I find something personally distasteful doesn't automatically justify moral outrage.

    An example, although intentionally humorous:

    I am disgusted by fat people in revealing clothing. I really don't like it. So maybe when Victoria's Secret starts carrying plus sizes, I quit shopping there. I vote with my money. But do I get morally outraged and start picketing Victoria's Secret and demanding that they only sell clothes to skinny people?

    Or course not, I'd look like an intolerant ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokelaw1 View Post
    Dead on! I agree 100%, well, maybe 95%. I think we can "critique" others for writing that music. We are free to do so as they are to write it.
    Regardless of who writes it, who sells it, PARENTS are the important "censors" when it comes to kids.
    But...what do you think about PRIVATE bsuiness choosing to sell music like this? Hard core HATE music. Music that DOES say we would be better off with all non-whites dead?
    I agree with what Jockey's said...we can respectfully withdraw ourselves from any market we deem inappropriate. Also, I agree with what Ray said: I enjoy the intolerance of bigots because it is ridiculous how pig-headed they can be.

    However, to answer with more than a "yes, I agree," I would have to say that it is the given right of any person, American or otherwise, to present their own ideas in any manner they see fit, be it harmful, or intolerant; however they have to be prepared to accept the backlash against their actions. While governments allow freedom of speech, this isn't to suggest there won't be a backlash from the common people.

    In short, picketing is just as legal as writing a song about killing black people because they're black. Provided nothing turns violent, we should all exist well enough.

    ---------------- Now playing: The Smiths - Oscillate Wildly via FoxyTunes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whatsthe2ndDfor View Post
    I agree with what Jockey's said...we can respectfully withdraw ourselves from any market we deem inappropriate. Also, I agree with what Ray said: I enjoy the intolerance of bigots because it is ridiculous how pig-headed they can be.

    However, to answer with more than a "yes, I agree," I would have to say that it is the given right of any person, American or otherwise, to present their own ideas in any manner they see fit, be it harmful, or intolerant; however they have to be prepared to accept the backlash against their actions. While governments allow freedom of speech, this isn't to suggest there won't be a backlash from the common people.

    In short, picketing is just as legal as writing a song about killing black people because they're black. Provided nothing turns violent, we should all exist well enough.

    ---------------- Now playing: The Smiths - Oscillate Wildly via FoxyTunes
    Yep! My thoughts exactly!

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