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    Quote Originally Posted by Slartibartfast View Post
    From what i have been able to gather so far, Jindal is the republican version of Obama.
    The republican party has to stop fighting the "last war". We don't need our own Obama, we need a candidate for what the nation will be facing in 2012 or 2016. Same problem of fighting the "last war" sunk Romney - he reinvented himself (in a phony way) as Bush, just in time for an election where the litmus test was how far you could distance yourself from Bush. If he'd been himself, Romney was what we needed in 2008. Oh well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loueedacat View Post
    The republican party has to stop fighting the "last war". We don't need our own Obama, we need a candidate for what the nation will be facing in 2012 or 2016. Same problem of fighting the "last war" sunk Romney - he reinvented himself (in a phony way) as Bush, just in time for an election where the litmus test was how far you could distance yourself from Bush. If he'd been himself, Romney was what we needed in 2008. Oh well.
    No sarah palin and McCain would have had a fighting chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slartibartfast View Post
    No sarah palin and McCain would have had a fighting chance.
    I agree. Much of GA was turned off by Mitt "The Mormon" because of his particular faith. Not saying that's right, just an observation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sicboater View Post
    I agree. Much of GA was turned off by Mitt "The Mormon" because of his particular faith. Not saying that's right, just an observation.

    -Rob
    yes, but I suspect much of Georgia was turned off by obama being black, and he won in a landslide. When faced with recession, a mormon that is an economic genius is just an economic genius.

    But my point wasn't focused on Romney, but rather the strategic imperative to look forwards and not backwards, and to prepare to win on tommorrow's battlefield, not yesterday's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loueedacat View Post
    yes, but I suspect much of Georgia was turned off by obama being black, and he won in a landslide. When faced with recession, a mormon that is an economic genius is just an economic genius.

    But my point wasn't focused on Romney, but rather the strategic imperative to look forwards and not backwards, and to prepare to win on tommorrow's battlefield, not yesterday's.
    The problem as I see it is that the Republican party wants to appease and not offend, so, they get trampled and rarely live up to their principles!

    As you say Loueedacat move forward not backwards, but in a determined, uncompromising and principled way!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMS View Post
    The problem as I see it is that the Republican party wants to appease and not offend !
    LOL.

    Also, I was going to say that Jindal is proven - he was appointed as Health secretary very young, has governed a state and revitalized a great portion of what was a battered state economy. I don't agree with much of his public policy or his weird personal belief in like exorcisms and born-again stuff but he's popular in his home state and extremely smart, definitely one of the young Turks of the 'new' Republican party.

    That being said his speech's POV, as is the problem with much of the Republican (and Dem), is obscenely hypocritical; his aversion to taking federal money is ridiculous given that all of his success is built on federal infusions into LA.

    Also, his speech was a complete s*itshow. I was laughing so hard during it and all I could think of was Kenneth the NBC page (as did most of the internet). In fact Kenneth (Jack McBrayer) had a response:

    Jack McBrayer - Jindal Response/Comparison

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    Quote Originally Posted by loueedacat View Post
    yes, but I suspect much of Georgia was turned off by obama being black, and he won in a landslide. When faced with recession, a mormon that is an economic genius is just an economic genius.
    No way to tell really...as we progress through time, more and more states are becoming battleground and in time I suspect all of them will matter.
    But my point wasn't focused on Romney, but rather the strategic imperative to look forwards and not backwards, and to prepare to win on tommorrow's battlefield, not yesterday's.
    This indeed would be a good strategy for any political party as a matter of fact.

    -Rob

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