Thread: Why isn't water flamable?

I don't care about adding energy, I'm not looking for a free ride, or the fact that water doesn't freely convert back to it's components, I'm just saying the argument that it's already burned, and thus can't burn again is maybe not the best description of the dynamic, and is a bit too "fancy" for my likes.

I guess I like Jockeys answer better:

water already contains oxygen, and is stable. no more oxygen will readily combine with it, thus it doesn't burn

However:

burning = oxidation.

And as we all here at SRP know, rusting also equals oxidation.

Therefore we have

Burning=oxidation=rusting,

Thus rusting=burning!

And why do our razors rust? Because we get water on them!

Aha!

And so, this would seem to show that the water is indeed still flamamble,as it is leading to rusting which is equal to oxidation, which is equal to burning!

So, riddle me that, SRP!

Originally Posted by Seraphim

So, riddle me that, SRP!

It appears you are trying to load your own original question (Why isn't water flamable?) with a false assumption (that water isn't flammable, which of course you have shown to be false.) If I didn't know any better I'd say you're trolling the conversation forum again!

You didn't see The Wizard of Oz??

Water thrown on the wicked witch of the west burns, it burns, it burns!



Scott

Originally Posted by Seraphim

And as we all here at SRP know, rusting also equals oxidation.

Therefore we have

Burning=oxidation=rusting,

Thus rusting=burning!

And why do our razors rust? Because we get water on them!

Aha!

And so, this would seem to show that the water is indeed still flamamble,as it is leading to rusting which is equal to oxidation, which is equal to burning!

So, riddle me that, SRP!

rusting is a very slow form of oxidation. burning is a very rapid form. water doesn't make the razor rust, it's more like a catalyst:
Rust - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

in any event, to put it in simpler terms, the iron wants the components of water more than the water does (hydrogen) so it gets them. also, there are hydroxide reactions at work behind the scenes. rusting is far more complicated than burning, because of all the intermediaries.

Originally Posted by hoglahoo

It appears you are trying to load your own original question (Why isn't water flamable?) with a false assumption (that water isn't flammable, which of course you have shown to be false.) If I didn't know any better I'd say you're trolling the conversation forum again!

Hey, just cause I can derail my own thread, and thus render it non-derailable by you, don't call me out on it!

You can convert rust back to iron and oxygen by heating it, which forces the oxidation reaction back the other way. Since the molecular rearrangement that occurred during the rusting process also separated out the carbon, unfortunately what you're left with is iron and carbon black instead of steel. And the heat necessary to reduce the rust will also kill the temper of the blade...

So don't do it to your razor. Do it to a nail or chunk of angle iron or something like that...

This thread reminds me of the concerns about Dihydrogen Monoxide. You've got to be really careful around this stuff!

Some of the known perils of Dihydrogen Monoxide are:

Death due to accidental inhalation of DHMO, even in small quantities. Prolonged exposure to solid DHMO causes severe tissue damage. Excessive ingestion produces a number of unpleasant though not typically life-threatening side-effects. DHMO is a major component of acid rain. Gaseous DHMO can cause severe burns. Contributes to soil erosion. Leads to corrosion and oxidation of many metals. Contamination of electrical systems often causes short-circuits. Exposure decreases effectiveness of automobile brakes. Found in biopsies of pre-cancerous tumors and lesions. Given to vicious dogs involved in recent deadly attacks. Often associated with killer cyclones in the U.S. Midwest and elsewhere, and in hurricanes including deadly storms in Florida, New Orleans and other areas of the southeastern U.S. Thermal variations in DHMO are a suspected contributor to the El Nino weather effect.

Dudes! Get with the science!!

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