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    The title says it all! How dare our government use this poor economy as an excuse to seize more and more power to its self! It is becoming so transparent day by day.Geithner Seeks Power to Seize Imperiled Firms - Presidential Politics | Political News - FOXNews.com

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    Geithner can't even pay his own taxes and he wants the power to seize and run "failing" US companies! What a crock! Next the will be looking at taking over sound companies because "they might fail"

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    Carl Marx said something to the effect that we will inevitably end up a communist state. Democracy to Socialism to Communism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMS View Post
    The title says it all! How dare our government use this poor economy as an excuse to seize more and more power to its self! It is becoming so transparent day by day.Geithner Seeks Power to Seize Imperiled Firms - Presidential Politics | Political News - FOXNews.com
    I saw that today and had to laugh! We're headed to a socialist America and I'll be one of the first to leave this great country behind

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmueller8 View Post
    I saw that today and had to laugh! We're headed to a socialist America and I'll be one of the first to leave this great country behind
    I have a sad news for you - there might be very few places to go. Japan? Korea? The rest of the world is infested with socialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparq View Post
    I have a sad news for you - there might be very few places to go. Japan? Korea? The rest of the world is infested with socialism.
    C'mon in, the water's fine!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparq View Post
    I have a sad news for you - there might be very few places to go. Japan? Korea? The rest of the world is infested with socialism.
    I agree with you there but my reasons are from a medical standpoint. Countries like ours have better medications because we pay for it. Canada will only supply generics to patients, which is fine for most medications; but when you've got better more effective medications that aren't even offered based on cost.... well.... in my family that's not even an option. ref

    I would rather and will most likely just use myself as the donor for whole blood transfusions (like they used to do in the old days) rather than use some crappy 1st or 2nd generation recombinant product that is more like a game of Russian Roulette each time you use it.

    BTW... because countries like Britain and Canada refuse to use the good "safe" stuff based on cost: 90% of their patients who need this medication to survive, are HIV or Hep C positive. In a socialized America I'd have a judge tell me I have to use that product on my kids and hope for the best or face jail time. Not gonna do it!

    That's just me though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmueller8 View Post
    ... Countries like ours have better medications because we pay for it. Canada will only supply generics to patients, which is fine for most medications; but when you've got better more effective medications that aren't even offered based on cost. ...
    Not true.

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    medications, germany, great britain. wasn't it germany that demanded lower prices from the pharm manufacturers and then screwed them? I was reading about it. apparently the US is the only major coountry that doesn't price control with these bloodsuckers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xman View Post
    Not true.

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    Alright, they will provide brand names provided they are "reasonably" priced. But the chemo, alzheimers, and many other drugs they will not touch nor mention based on price.

    Prices are too high I agree but the technologies involved in the creation, patenting, FDA approval, and advertisement are what keep the prices so friggen high. Plus the enormous bonuses they give out as well. Hell; our meds are a new car each month and I've got $100 K's worth in the fridge for emergencies.

    The system sucks!

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