Thread: How is this even a supreme court case?

update:
Student Strip Search Heads To High Court - CBS News

IMO, this is part of the issue we have a society that has, in essence, turned the responsibility of parenting over to the schools. We as a society must determine where the dividing lines are between teaching our children and raising our children. Think about that for a minute. Do you really want the education system teaching morals to your children? I don't know about many of you, but I wanted my children taught morals and what is right and wrong at home and not from someone else. All this crap will stop when you put your foot down. Ask questions of your elected officials. See if they believe in the same things you do. If they don't get rid of them. If you don't ask, then shame on you. All of this will stop when we want to stop.

This has nothing at all to do with schools teaching morals. This is all about two kids with guns and alot of bullets waltzing unfettered through a Colorado high school ten years ago. We ask the government to keep our children safe while they are in school. The guide lines have been adjusted ten thousand times and will be re-adjusted ten thousand times more. The school systems in many communities are on total lockdown. We want our kids safe. But when it is our kid who is caught up in some wierd snag, we are the first to complain that there are impositions on civil rights.

I heard something about an entire busload of kids that got shaken down, some strip searched because one kid who was on the bus said he saw some kids with pills. I don't know which side I come down on but I know if one kid on that bus died from an overdose of something that day, the school system would have been in the grinder.

Originally Posted by icedog

We want our kids safe. But when it is our kid who is caught up in some wierd snag, we are the first to complain that there are impositions on civil rights.

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Ben Franklin

when I was in high school a lot of the students were armed. mostly with knives and such, but a few with guns. it never really bothered me. i guess i figured if one kid went nuts all the other kids might have a better chance stopping them than waiting an hour for the police to get there.

Originally Posted by jockeys

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Ben Franklin

when I was in high school a lot of the students were armed. mostly with knives and such, but a few with guns. it never really bothered me. i guess i figured if one kid went nuts all the other kids might have a better chance stopping them than waiting an hour for the police to get there.

I agree with Ben and with you. I was one of the armed kids myself. However, that sends little comfort to a nervous mother or a school system under pressure from 3000 nervous mothers.

Originally Posted by icedog

I agree with Ben and with you. I was one of the armed kids myself. However, that sends little comfort to a nervous mother or a school system under pressure from 3000 nervous mothers.

nervous mothers will be nervous mothers regardless of what happens. that's a constant. i say let 'em worry, and preserve as much personal liberty as possible.

just my silly dreaming. i know it'll never happen.

Court says strip search of Ariz. teenager illegal - Yahoo! News

The search was illegal, according to SCOTUS.

Originally Posted by smokelaw1

Court says strip search of Ariz. teenager illegal - Yahoo! News

The search was illegal, according to SCOTUS.

Sounds like the right result to me, although I haven't read the holding yet.

The article wasnt too clear to me, maybe I misunderstood it. Will she be able to sue?

Originally Posted by Bruno

If the accusation would have been heroin, it would not have changed anything.
The appropriate response would be to confine the student and notify the authorities. They should be the ones to get a warrant and / or perform the strip search. NOT the administrator and the school nurse.

I am not one of those parents who second-guesses the school admins at every step. I have backed them up in the past on decisions they made when my daughter was out of line.
But this going MUCH too far. The fact that people seem to think that this can ever be appropriate is insane imo. Private persons should NEVER be allowed this kind of power.

This is how I see it also. Heck when I as in school (a long time ago) we had a cop assigned to the school. Now I imagine it is SOP. They should have every right to detain her and contact her mother then the authorities. If it comes to that the authorities can search her. Anything more than searching her locker, her bags/purse, jacket, etc and having her turn out her pockets is way out of line.