Thread: Should they have let the bear eat her?

I gotta say I would have let her die. She went in during feeding time. The bears didnt even get much to eat because they pulled her out. Now that they have a taste for blood its only time before they plot their escape and take over the zoo.

I think letting the bears kill the woman would have created much much more problems than it would solve. Not to mention the lawsuit that would inevitably follow. They got her out pretty quickly, I doubt she'll succeed in a negligence claim, assuming she purposefully jumped into the pit. However, if she died, there is no proof that she purposefully jumped unless someone saw her do it and/or recorded it. Then the family can sue the zoo for improper safety.

Plus, the family could sue for pain and suffering during her final moments of being torn to shreds. Its not quick so there'd be a big award for that. They could even sue for an intentional tort, the zoo intentionally let her die. That would bad for the zoo.

So, looking at the bigger picture, clearly the zoo did the only logical thing. Save the dumb ****.




That said...yeah. They shoulda let the bears eat the dumb ****.

There clearly would have been a &%$*-storm if they didn't save her.

But I do kind of wish we lived in a world where it was acceptable. And then the headline could have read "Woman Commits Suicide at Berlin Zoo" instead.

I hate the way people sue and win for things that should be proof they warrant euthanasia, it absolutely amazes. Probably the reason I've not yet gotten on a Jury, I WANT to be on one. and I want it to be for a really idiotic case like a woman tripping over her own kid in a store and suing, or the guy that got locked in a garage during a burglary and sued for pain and suffering because he had to live on dog food for days.

I think that during the committing of a crime you should have no rights, sure, afterwards when you surrender to police your rights to fair treatment etc. should come back into play. but say you're breaking into somebodies house and on the way out trip over the sprinkler and get hurt. you shouldn't get to sue.

with animals involved it does go to the stupid side of things quite often. because although I believe the dumbest animal is worth more than a stupid human (because of their infinite ability to be a drain on society) the fact remains that a normal human is worth more than any animal (excepting maybe my little dog).

a case a few years ago happened I watched all about on news. woman and her 2yo son were outside a store, a dog came up and unprovoked jumped on and mauled the boy, laying into his face very good. while the child was in surgery the understandably distraught and angry father took a bat and went looking for the dog. he found it chained in somebodies yard. he walked up, the person told him to get away and TOOK THE LEASH OFF, the dog went towards him and he went Babe Ruth on it.

animal rights group was after him, wanted him in jail. Personally I feel he was justified, further that he was likely in danger, or had good reason to believe so considering the dog approaching just mauled his son. AND the person letting it off the leash should have been beaten for being an asshole.

now, onto stupid people and reproduction. local case where woman abandoned two kids, age 3 and 2 at separate locations because she "had no family, was stressed, etc." and she may be currently pregnant. Uh huh, I say tie her tubes, DONE.

my cousin, 20yo, already done time, drunk driving, domestic abuse, petty theft etc. has a 1.5yo with his stupid as him girlfriend. she has previous kid by different guy. court has restraining order against him, she lets him live with her anyways. the reason I heard, "I want to be with the father of one of my kids."

yeah, tie her tubes and knot his pipes.

Red

I think it is a good thing that she was rescued and not eaten. Polar bears deserve better food than fat stupid blonds. I have heard that polar bears (as do all bears) consider young blond children named Goldilocks to be a delicacy.

"Life is tough,it's even tougher if you are stupid" John Wayne

shoulda let it eat her. anyone dumb enough to rush a bear while it's eating deserves to be eaten... hopefully before they can reproduce.

As an avid outdoorsman I can say that while backpacking alone, during mating season or after hibernation in bear country you better make a lot of noise, cause them bars is upset to say the least.

I was fortunate enough to hike some of the AT during the "bear pack" attacks and never saw one bear, which is a blessing and a burden.

I have also been in the back country of Yellowstone where brown bears live.

Bears are beautiful and dangerous. The noise that anyone in the wilderness hates to hear is that HMMPH that comes from the bushed 20 or 30 yards from where your standing. Trust me you will wet yourself.

I say this cause when you put yourself in there environment, the human is now NOT at the top of the food chain, the bear is. You have to make peace with that. You jump into any enclosure that is not your home and be prepared for a poor welcome.

Originally Posted by Big Red

I of course think that in cases like this, and any other where people shouldn't be and have no reasonable expectation of safety, that there should be no consequences to the animal. yes, the argument is made that once they eat easy human prey, in the wild, they become dangerous. but these bears are probably never getting out, and likely would like a different climate given a choice, so I doubt consumption of one stupid biped would harm them in the long run.

Cold? No. our problem is that we protect EVERYBODY from everything, including themselves. What does it cost to institutionalize somebody like that? what if she reproduces and her stupidity or chemical problem is hereditary.
gets me into a huge thought process about reproduction (see octo-mom) restrictions and other such. It is just natural selection trying to re-assert it herself. besides, she's been cheated out of her darwin award now.

Red

So, it's ok for us to pay tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to treat a person with a medical condition - say because they spent their lives eating stupidly and sitting on their asses, but we shouldn't pay to medicate someone like this woman? Wouldn't we want to prevent someone with a genetic predisposition toward cancer or heart disease from passing these on to their kids? Mental illness can hit any of us just as easily as the next guy. I doubt she chose to be that way. Just ranting And, I agree that the octo-mom is ridiculous. Her doctor should lose his license.

That said, I don't think any person should have put themselves at risk to save her and the animals should not be harmed.

Jordan

No, I don't think we should spend thousands of dollars on people that have conditions due to their lifestyle and stupid choices. Just like I don't think my friend who has Lupus should just be stuck on the transplant list in order of who got their first. She works out every single day, watches her diet, has always done her best to take care of her body, and there are people ahead of her on their second kidney, or who need one because they've abused their body, and they aren't doing anything to take care of themselves. I believe the right thing to do would be prioritize based on who deserves it most.

Yes, mental diseases are not the fault of whomever has them, however some people treat them properly and some people don't. Many people that have them refuse to take the medications that make them better. And if you know you have something is it responsible to reproduce, knowing the likelihood of passing it on? heck, I didn't want to have kids because I have a predisposition to be heavy, I have to work really really hard to not be overweight (which I am currently I also don't have perfect vision and I'm hairy. For those reasons I didn't want to have kids. My wife convinced me too anyways, and I'm glad now. but if little reasons like that gave me pause then what about people that have major issues?

Octomom and her doctor should both be drug out and shot, absolute irresponsibility. And not fair to those kids in the slightest. I can't believe that dr. phil jackass had her on his show and gave her money. He's contributing to the problem.

Red