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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphim View Post

    It's nothing new. All the Clinton supporters also wrung their hands and shouted about the sky falling after GW Bush took office with a radically different approach to things.
    Yes they did. There are 2 glaring differences though The Bush administration did not blame the Clinton administration for every little thing nor did the Bush administration dare to entertain the idea of prosecuting any of the Clinton administration for Political differences or decisions made while they were in power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMS View Post
    Yes they did. There are 2 glaring differences though The Bush administration did not blame the Clinton administration for every little thing nor did the Bush administration dare to entertain the idea of prosecuting any of the Clinton administration for Political differences or decisions made while they were in power.
    I wouldn't call the things in question 'little' - clearly Cheney and Obama don't consider them little either.
    I don't know what political differences you are talking about, but Nixon was prosecuted despite his opinion that "when the president does it it's not illegal".

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    Quote Originally Posted by gugi View Post
    I wouldn't call the things in question 'little' - clearly Cheney and Obama don't consider them little either.
    I don't know what political differences you are talking about, but Nixon was prosecuted despite his opinion that "when the president does it it's not illegal".
    He was ready to be impeached for illegal wiretapping while president. He resigned before the impeachment and Ford pardoned him! Ford did the right thing so as not to stain the presidency any further than Nixon already did. It cost him the election in 76 by the way and I bet he knew it would.
    I wonder if Obama has such courage and strength of character or will he continue using the Bush administration as his personal whipping boy and scapegoat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMS View Post
    He resigned before the impeachment and Ford pardoned him! Ford did the right thing so as not to stain the presidency any further than Nixon already did.
    are you taking an opinion contrary to the spirit of justices scalia and thomas? i thought you believed in blind justice.

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    It cost him the election in 76 by the way and I bet he knew it would.
    so you believe he thought the liberal policies that would follow after his failure to be reelected weren't as great of a threat to the country as the 'stain to the presidential institution' that prosecuting nixon would've been? to me it's the deeds that do the damage, not the prosecution.


    Quote Originally Posted by JMS View Post
    I wonder if Obama has such courage and strength of character or will he continue using the Bush administration as his personal whipping boy and scapegoat?
    and i thought this was all about your opinion of cheney...

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    Is anyone that has posted previous to my question over the age of 50?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Jeeter View Post
    Is anyone that has posted previous to my question over the age of 50?

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    58 in about a month.

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    That was not my quote.

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    The president of the US is always going to be between a rock and a hard place. The issues that you run on are not always easily understood. GW bashing is a religion for some but produces nothing. Obama has reversed himself on some issues because once he found out what was going on behind the scenes he had little choice but to behave like the president of the United States and take the welfare country and state first. The presidency is a very difficult job and in the next 4 to 8 years you are going to see Obama age, rapidly. The weight of the office is a profound and heavy obligation. There is the realization that no matter what you do there are people that will forfiet their lives and their treasures. Not an easy position to be in and I wish him God's speed and wisdom.


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    That's the one great thing I love about this country, and put my life on the line defending it. Everyone has the right to say what they think and feel whether or not I agree with it, either from the radical right or the looney left. My son is also defending this right, as well as my niece who just graduated from Annapolis yesterday. So while you are having this great debate, take a moment to thank those who are defending your right to voice your thoughts, and sometimes paid for it with the ultimate cost. If you think their sacrifice wasn't worth thanking, I enjoy you to go live in other areas of the world where you don't have that right. Yes, I still believe in those ideals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dward View Post
    That's the one great thing I love about this country, and put my life on the line defending it. Everyone has the right to say what they think and feel whether or not I agree with it, either from the radical right or the looney left. My son is also defending this right, as well as my niece who just graduated from Annapolis yesterday. So while you are having this great debate, take a moment to thank those who are defending your right to voice your thoughts, and sometimes paid for it with the ultimate cost. If you think their sacrifice wasn't worth thanking, I enjoy you to go live in other areas of the world where you don't have that right. Yes, I still believe in those ideals.
    I am betting a majority of us in this debate also defended our country.

    Good luck and God bless to your son and niece.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dward View Post
    ... My son is also defending this right, as well as my niece who just graduated from Annapolis yesterday. ...
    Send my congratulations to your Neice. And best wishes to your son. You must be a very proud father and uncle.
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