Thread: I never know what to say about such things!

One murderer dead, lets hope they catch and fully prosecute the other.

Originally Posted by mhailey

So did Hitler, Eichmann, Mengele.

Absolutely, but there are many people in many professions who you could say the same of. Any one who has killed, including soldiers, for example.

Originally Posted by mhailey

I'll add one more question: what kind of abortion doctor can do his "job" on Friday, and then go to church and worship God on Sunday?

Matt

I think my answer was pretty apt.

I imagine you do lots of things other people don't agree with, but that doesn't stop you doing them. An abortionist is not breaking the law, if he feels what he is doing is morally justified and can be married to his religious beliefs - then it is not my place or yours to judge him.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Originally Posted by mhailey

I disagree with the killing of the abortion doctor, but you reap what you sow.

Funny. I once made the same remark about 9/11 and I got flamed for it.

is the guy who dumped the Zyklon B into the showers...
A. More guilty than Hitler.
B. Equally guilty to Hitler.
C. Less guilty than Hitler.
D. Much less guilty because it was the societal norm.
E. Justified in his actions as a result of the societal norm.
F. Unjustly persecuted for doing what he thought was acceptable.

If you managed to kill him before he could open the canister would it be murder?
A. Yes killing is murder.
B. Not if you saved lives.
C. It doesn't matter because they will get someone else.
D. Depends how society views Nazis.

I'm just giving perspective on moral relativism and it's consequences in society.

Originally Posted by JMS

Feel free to answer as you see fit

as long as you stay within the guidelines for forum behavior. if you're unsure whether your posts fits them, it probably doesn't.

the above was in compliance with the g-doctrine on preemption

Originally Posted by gugi

as long as you stay within the guidelines for forum behavior. if you're unsure whether your posts fits them, it probably doesn't.

the above was in compliance with the g-doctrine on preemption

Thats a given gugi.

Originally Posted by JMS

Thats a given gugi.

yes, one would think so, but there's always history to learn from

Am I the only one who sees the irony here?

Pro Life Killer

Originally Posted by cybrok

Am I the only one who sees the irony here?

Pro Life Killer

Exactly my point!
You could say he is saving lives by killing one life but is it really up to him.
I suspect some people need excuses to do as they wish to do. This point was brought home to me at a young age. I was chopping firewood with an axe in the woods around our house in Northern California when a big snake came out of the brush and began to chase me. My father called these snakes Bull snakes. I had seen plenty of rattlers and killed a few for food and skin before this so I knew it wasn't a rattler. I ran for about 3 or 4 steps and then turned and brought my axe down upon his head. I told my father I was scared and killed the snake but he knew better. he said "No you weren't. You wanted to kill the snake." He was right. when I turned to face the snake there was little in the way of fear and I could've out run him or even picked him up with a stick and tossed him aside but I chose to kill the poor creature and then proceeded to lie to myself and my father, to further convince myself of the rightness of my action.

Originally Posted by JMS

Do they not have to answer to their conscience and God ( or whatever your belief is)?

I've always found that to be a darkly fascinating aspect of religious zealotry.

As it happens, I just read a quote from a late-vicotirian collection of mystery stories tittled, The Innocence of Father Brown, which really speaks to this concept.

When will people understand that it is useless for a man to read his Bible unless he also reads everybody else's Bible? A printer reads a Bible for misprints. A Mormon reads his Bible, and finds polygamy; a Christian Scientist reads his, and finds we have no arms or legs...... ........of course, he [the villian] read the Old Testament rather than the New. Of course, he found in the Old Testament anything he wanted - lust, tyranny, treason. Oh I dare say he was honest, as you call it. But what is the good of a man being honest in his worship of dishonesty?

Some of the particulars of that passage are obviously outdated, but I think the concept if very sound. People become wrapped in a cause or an idea, and they look to their Bibles (or whatever other sacred text) and they choose the interpretation that justifies their action.