Thread: I never know what to say about such things!

Thank you Bruno, to take one verse, sentence or idea and raise it above any others is to be unbalanced in the whole of the teaching. The entire bible, koran or any other teaching must be considered or the teaching is taken out of context, and when the teaching is taken out of context the errors begin. This is probably the best reason for the old saying, "The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

I would agree with that 100%. Concentrating on a single part or parts out of overall context is generally what leads to problems, whether it be the Bible, or anything else. Not understanding or knowing the whole story, yet assuming you do, is always problematic.

James.

True, contraception is not all; I was speaking more generally before I found out more about this story. What Dr. Tiller was attacked for was his performing of late-term abortions, a procedure almost never done for "frivolous" reasons, but out of medical necessity. (The woman could die giving birth, the fetus is no longer viable i.e. dead or soon will be due to birth defects,etc.) Do people opposed to this not realize the fetus will die anyway if the mother is killed? And then two will be dead rather than one...

Interesting to see the real militant anti-abortion groups immediately trying to distance themselves from this after years of harassment: posting his home address, the names and addresses of his family members--sometimes in the style of wanted posters, where his children attended school(!), his comings and goings on their websites, calling him a "murderer on the loose", and saying he "must be stopped..." Bill O'Reilly 29 times on his "show" referred to this man as "Tiller the Baby Killer"! Operation Rescue had it's own "Tiller Watch." I don't think it's a stretch to say these people played a serious role in this man's death.

Thanks (no doubt in part) to their actions, his family has lost their father, husband, and grandfather. And yet some who celebrate (yes, I have read news comments saying exactly that) this man's murder as a good thing (sociopaths, really) have the gall to, with a straight face, no less,call themselves "pro-life"...

Just sick.

There's legal and then there's moral. Sometimes killing will fit in both categories (depends on your local jurisdiction and personal moral beliefs).

If a killing is both legal and moral, then no one calls it murder. Then it is called "duty" or "justifiable". Do enough of it and you will get some medals and a pat on the back. If it isn't both, to someone, then someone will call it murder.

Since law, morality, and people vary with circumstances, it's a never ending argument.