Quote Originally Posted by Bruno View Post
Ah yes. Science is to blame. Spare the brimstone and spoil the congregation eh?

In the case of Rome, they fell because they overextended their conquest. They used the spoils of conquest to finance more conquest and support the decadent life of the upper crust. When the conquests halted, the entire thing collapsed in on itself.

One does not need the divine to be virtuous. If the dark ages have proven anything, it is that the divine can be just as perverted as anything else.
Well Said.