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honedright Social Security - Take it or... 09-28-2009, 01:37 PM
hoglahoo I'll partake because I paid... 09-28-2009, 01:52 PM
mainaman Same here, I'll take back... 09-28-2009, 01:56 PM
Slartibartfast mo money, mo problems 09-28-2009, 02:01 PM
hoglahoo I'd like to rid you of your... 09-28-2009, 02:08 PM
JimmyHAD With all due respect I find... 09-28-2009, 02:23 PM
honedright It's just a question Jimmy,... 09-28-2009, 06:57 PM
JimmyHAD Well I don't know how many... 09-28-2009, 07:02 PM
honedright That's just it Jimmy. What if... 09-28-2009, 07:10 PM
Slartibartfast You paid money into the... 09-28-2009, 07:57 PM
hoglahoo To me it seems like the only... 09-28-2009, 08:00 PM
honedright Without going into a lot of... 09-28-2009, 09:53 PM
mparker762 It's a false choice. The... 09-28-2009, 10:05 PM
59caddy some of you help me here. i... 09-28-2009, 10:09 PM
thebigspendur I doubt it. No Govt entity... 09-28-2009, 11:05 PM
DPflaumer :soapbox:I hate the system,... 09-28-2009, 11:11 PM
59caddy with a little search i found... 09-28-2009, 11:21 PM
mparker762 It is still a false choice -... 09-29-2009, 01:44 AM
honedright Yes, I see your point 09-29-2009, 02:31 AM
AussiePostie I personally have paid into... 09-29-2009, 05:48 AM
MichaelP With the population curves... 09-28-2009, 07:59 PM
honedright You paid into it. So where is... 09-29-2009, 01:40 PM
hoglahoo It isn't gone, it's still a... 09-29-2009, 01:49 PM
mhailey I'm taking it. I paid in,... 09-29-2009, 02:50 PM
JimmyHAD Lee at 71 you're still... 09-29-2009, 03:28 PM
hoglahoo Hey Jimmy! Thank God for the... 09-29-2009, 03:34 PM
honedright No, no, no... You're... 09-29-2009, 04:04 PM
majurey I took it (in the UK) 09-29-2009, 04:17 PM
schatz Get ready for a potential... 09-28-2009, 10:30 PM
fccexpert I don't agree with social... 09-28-2009, 11:02 PM
sarend Well, it began as voluntary,... 09-29-2009, 11:52 PM
Stubear I think if you've paid into... 09-30-2009, 02:46 PM
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    Quote Originally Posted by honedright View Post
    No, I don't think that's it at all.

    Refinement of the restatement:

    If you're mugged, and later meet the mugger in more advantageous circumstances and he offers to repay some portion of the money he took, and he must mug another person in order to repay you, do you refuse it because you don't condone the second theft?

    I think that better states the case.

    It is still a false choice - because your decision to accept repayment does not affect his decision to mug that second person (he's already mugged that person by the time you catch him and the repayment offer is made). Or back to the actual question - your decision to accept social security payments will not affect the goverment's decision to collect SS taxes from your grandchildren.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mparker762 View Post
    It is still a false choice - because your decision to accept repayment does not affect his decision to mug that second person (he's already mugged that person by the time you catch him and the repayment offer is made). Or back to the actual question - your decision to accept social security payments will not affect the goverment's decision to collect SS taxes from your grandchildren.
    Yes, I see your point

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    I personally have paid into my own super annuation since I began working at age 15, as I did not fancy the prospect of surviving on a meagre government handout when I retired.
    Even our government realised over a decade ago that there will not be the number of people working in the future to support the aging population so they brought in compulsory super annuation, wether it,s with the company you work for or a private scheme is up to you. Basically they are telling you that you will be looking after your own retirement financial plans. They have also raised the mininum retirement age to 65 for people born after 1964 and also there is now no upper limit on retirement age. So if you can not provide for your own retirement you will proberlly have to just keep on working till you drop or quallify for a disability pension.
    So in answer to your question, no I won,t be standing in line waiting for my subsistance cheque, I plan on doing more than just eating and sleeping when I retire.

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