Thread: Another Health Care Issue

Undocumented patients wary of offers to return to home countries - CNN.com

During one of the recent health care threads a number of people worried that any new plan would provide health care coverage for illegal aliens. The linked story demonstrates clearly that our current system pays for health care for illegal aliens. The story tries to make it sound like the hospitals or facilities absorb these costs, but they fail to mention that facilities get most of their money from governments and insurance companies - which means they get their money from our taxes or our insurance premiums.

My question for you guys is what can we do to prevent this - now or under a new system? I don't know the answer, but I'm curious to see what others think.

Jordan

Originally Posted by jnich67

what can we do to prevent this

bring our troops back from all over the world to help enforce our own border laws

Originally Posted by hoglahoo

bring our troops back from all over the world to help enforce our own border laws

the world would never go for it. then they would have to spend more money protecting themselves and this would never do.

Originally Posted by hoglahoo

bring our troops back from all over the world to help enforce our own border laws

hawsome...

If someone shows up at an emergency room they must be evaluated and treated and stabilized at the minimum and that's the law. It doesn't matter if their from Alpha Centuri.

I honestly do not know what size of a problem these illegal aliens are for your country. We have our own here, but the principle is to help anyone in need of a medical help, not what to do to prevent from giving help.

An friend of mine was in France and had overstayed his visa. He was illegal and became ill and had to be hospitalized. He was treated and released without having to pay a centime. He has since applied for a permanent visa or the equivalent of a green card in the USA.

As thebigspendur says in the USA they are required by law to stabilize and that is it. I know at least one person who eventually died because they lacked health insurance and the E.R. at the hospital gave them short shrift over multiple attempts to access care. I heard a stat of approximately 20,000 per year dieing as a result of not having health insurance to begin with or losing it shortly after becoming ill. Pleasant dreams.

This is something that in this country is brought up with some regularity. The idea that people who have either not paid into the system their whole lives, or simply have no right to be here, use and abuse our healthcare system.

Infact, there is little evidence to support that theory, generally, legitimate migrants move when they are young, and use the services offered very little whilst paying into them. Illegal immigrants generally avoid points of contact with any authority that could start the ball rolling to have them sent home.

It's basically a missunderstood issue.

Originally Posted by gregs656

This is something that in this country is brought up with some regularity. The idea that people who have either not paid into the system their whole lives, or simply have no right to be here, use and abuse our healthcare system.

Infact, there is little evidence to support that theory, generally, legitimate migrants move when they are young, and use the services offered very little whilst paying into them. Illegal immigrants generally avoid points of contact with any authority that could start the ball rolling to have them sent home.

It's basically a missunderstood issue.

Really? Misunderstood you say?

Come on down to San Diego for a time and check out our emergency rooms and while you are at it check out our restaurants and bakeries, our construction sites. Scream "federales" and watch them run.

When you are sick and I mean really sick or your wife or kids are and you are here illegally you're not worried about being turned over to Govt. authorities you want help. Its as simple as that.

When I used to work at the border at San Ysidro on overtime its amazing what you see. People returning back to Mexico with some relation dead in the car and relatives really deathly ill. Some will go back but that's really rare.