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10-22-2009, 10:52 PM #11what Dad calls me
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Originally Posted by mhailey
Because they say so.It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled. Twain
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10-22-2009, 11:18 PM #12
Because switchblades or Gravity knives have pretty much been illegal in most states for a very long time. probably because if you got into a fight with someone who had one it isn't like a normal knife where the guy takes it out and you see it coming. With these knives you might never even see it. The first you'd know about it is the pain and the blood.
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10-22-2009, 11:35 PM #13Curmudgeon
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I will say up front that I haven't had extensive experience with Switchblades, or 'Automatic Knives' but the ones I have handled all left something to be desired in the 'Quality Department.' I carry a 1981 vintage Case Mako, which is a pretty substantial knife. It has a thumb stud on the blade (which I installed.) I can open it one handed, about as fast as a Switchblade will open. And it's a much better made knife. I have never seen the fascination with what is pretty much a piece of junk. At least the examples I have seen were junk!
Other folks' experience may differ from mine. Or as the car ads say, YMMV.
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10-22-2009, 11:41 PM #14Shaves like a pirate
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I wrote Coryn (my congressman) nearly a dozen letters about this over the last 6 months, and I'm glad it finally got passed. Coryn's a very sensible guy about stuff like this.
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10-22-2009, 11:48 PM #15Dapper Dandy
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There are definitely quality switchblades available, they just cost more than your typical knife. I have one that I like quite a bit and used to always carry, but the laws here are more strict than Oklahoma. Originally Posted by Brother Jeeter
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10-23-2009, 12:31 AM #16
I carried a benchmade for work for many years and it was a very substantial and very high quality knife with a 4.5 inch tonto blade semi serrated. I have a Cuda max with a 5.5 inch talonite that I carry now. Its not an auto but has a thumb stud and I can open it very rapidly however whether you think you can open (manually) a knife faster than an auto (and you can't with a quality one) you still have to draw it and open it. With a switchblade it can all be done totally concealed as evidenced by enough people who have opened them in their pants. I guess a highly skilled knifefighter with a butterfly knife can come about as close as I've ever seen.
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10-23-2009, 02:49 AM #17< Banned User >
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I have a very nice collection of well made automatics. Interestingly I can open and close the Benchmade 940 I carry everyday faster than some of the fully automatic blades that are illegal.
I am doing my best to defeat foolish arbitrary laws regarding knives. If anyone has an interest in any illegal knives, such as switchblades or throwing knives, just let me know and we'll see what we can do. I can be surprisingly clever. Onje of the best things on the market is the double action automatic. I have a couple but this one is just amazing. http://www.tactical-life.com/online/...911-automatic/ I had a thread about it. Here it is but the pictures seem to have goed away: http://straightrazorpalace.com/finer...ollection.htmlLast edited by icedog; 10-23-2009 at 03:02 AM.
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10-23-2009, 02:37 PM #18Senior Member
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Darn straight. Continuing to overstep their legal abilities to legislate/restrict personal freedoms Originally Posted by nun2sharp
I don't buy it. Sorry. This is a State's rights issue, and the federal government has no right to be passing this legislation. I remember just recently that the Federal Government made it illegal to carry a firearm within X number of feet/yards (meters for you metric people) of a school. seemingly sensible legislation, but it was struck down as unconstitutional and beyond the authority of the Federal Government to legislate/regulate. It was a state's right issue. Originally Posted by thebigspendur
I can carry a loaded handgun without any issues, but if I have a switchblade, then I'm committing a crime. Ridiculous.
How is a switchblade faster than this?
YouTube - Spyderco Endura Wave
Oh, wait, lets just ban those too, as well as suspend an Eagle Scout from school for 20 days, when he had a 2 inch pocket knife in his locked car, as part of a survival kit.
Pretty soon, we will all just be saying "Please sir, may I have some more?" Except the "Sir" will be Mr. Obama.
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10-23-2009, 03:34 PM
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Actually, they don't, except for when the knife in question is either imported or travels across state lines in commerce. The actual proposed rule that the recent legislation was intended to address was related only to the import of certain knives.
The problem is, most states also have laws prohibiting the possession of switchblade knives and they often base their legal definitions on what constitutes a switchblade on the federal definition.
10-23-2009, 06:08 PM
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Oh yes, the ever present "commerce clause." The gun subject to the case I mentioned earlier was, in all probability, shipped through interstate commerce, so why did that piece of legilation fail? Also, the 2nd Amendment is not limited to Guns, it is the Right to Bear Arms. A knife is an arm under this Amendment, and so the right to bear such arm is protected.
