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Just curious?
Card carrying member of the "Beer" party...didn't see that as an option! I am registered as a Republican, but I vote for the person, not the party.
Randy
I am an active member of the RNC-but I identify myself as more of a conservative than a republican...ya know what i mean?
The poll is amazing. Are only republicans answering or are we just a big ol'e group of elephants?
Steven
I'm a die hard Republican. I come from a mixed family. My brother and I are Republican and our mother and sister are dumocrats, our father was a dem also and could never figure out how he raised 2 republicans. I always told him it was because he taught us how to think for our selves.
I'm a registered Democrat but I much prefer the ideas of the Green or the Libertarian Party. Both the Ds and the Rs have become far too homogenized to be readily distinguishable and for the most part they aren't watching out for their constituents. Mind you these are my opinions and observations, not necessarily fact :)
I also appreciate a lot of Libertarian views as well. Specifically limited government, states rights, constitutional constructionism, personal liberty and frredom.
Steven
I'm in Canada so it's a bit different. We have three main federal parties.
The Conservative Party is as it sounds and more so all the time.
The Liberal party was also as it sounds, but less so all the time.
The New Democratic Party is the only party left(lol) that actually lives up to social justice values so, as an artist, they are my kinda folk.
The Green party is gaining support at the expense of the Conservatives strangely enough, and we even have a seperatist party called the Bloq Quebecois who are bent on seccession from Canada for their province.
It's a riot on the hill and we're heading for a January election. The main issues? Protecting Health Care from creeping privatisation, standing up to the US on the Softwood Lumber problem, and rampant corruption in the ruling party(Lib.). If you're at all interested in what Canadian politics is like NOW is the time to pay attention to the CBC. I believe CBC Newsworld is available in most places through the US.
Yeah, I've heard a lot about the softwood lumber issue and you folks in Canada are getting a raw deal. I hope people come around on this issue soon.
I'll start feeling compassion for their softwood issue once they stop shipping their trash into Michigan.
180 Semi-trucks daily haul trash into Michigan for dumping in landfills. In 2003, Toronto alone sent more than 1.1 million tons of trash into Michigan! It's a growing concern here in Michigan and it isn't slowing down anytime soon. I'm not saying it's entirelly Canada's fault, the State of Michigan needs a good a$$kicking on this issue, too. I'm only one vote...
But, to answer the question/poll, I'm the lone Republican in a family full of Dems. It seems that more and more lately I've voted the individual rather than the party.
Jeff
I concur. You wouldn't believe (or maybe you would) how hard it is to get them to adopt better recycling and progressive reduction of garbage. Tax the guys making all the garbage to pay for the disposal and we won't have to pay Michigan to suck it up. Then those guys'll wise up and produce less crap. Till then it's "business" as usual.Quote:
Originally Posted by str8rzrshvr
I'm as conservative as they come. Voted Republican.
Well damn, now I really feel like the odd man out here. I do agree with str8rzrshvr that I vote for the individual rather than the party.
Question for the Republicans. Are you watching C-Span right now? If not, could you please do so? I would like to know your honest feelings about what your party is trying to do at the moment demanding the immediate withdrawal of troops from Iraq.
Well, lets put it this way. I was utterly dumbfounded when Bush was re-elected. I could not believe it!!
At the same time I have to say that the alternative did not please me at all!!
At this point in time I have never felt so completely unrepresented by the major political parties as I do now.
They are not focusing on the major problems, they are not critically evaluating the success or failure of existing programs, they are not challanging existing power centers, they have let the economic foundation of this country disappear (manufacturing and agriculture), they have utterly ignored the energy crisis for 30 years, etc. etc etc.:rant:
Randy,
That is how I have felt for the last 4 presidential elections. I didn't want either of them to win. I have found the same is true with local elections. I feel that the common man has been forgotten and I can't believe they have let the energy situation to get as bad as it is...... Well I am wrong if I am Mobil/Exxon I guess there is no crisis only profits. :cry:
Guys,
It's a sad thing when you really are voting "against" someone rather than "for" someone. Guess that's why, when the presidential debates are on at the same time as the beauty pageant, the debates when the ratings. Of course, that's where the two "biggest boobs" are!
RT
I am more conservative than Republican and if that category had been on the list, that would have been the way I voted.
I have to agree with you fellows who say it looks like the individuals have been left behind. We do need to stop terrorism in its tracks and even tho I am not a hawk I believe we have done right in Iraq.
But the big picture needs to take into consideration the needs of all not just the corporations. Business is what enables us to have our lifestyles but I find myself going backwards.
When I was making $5.00 an hour I had more than when I was making the big bucks( that is a slam on trucking). Which is another subject all together.
Hope I did not bore you all too tears with my soapbox. :thinking:
Alot of people in this country forget that the price of freedom is always paid in blood.Quote:
Originally Posted by moshet
Yes, but for whose freedom are we fighting here?Quote:
Originally Posted by wopmanfixit
.Ultimately our own. By securing freedom for others we guarantee ours. So long as there are countrys that support terrorism, we cannot be secure. eventually we would have had to take Saddam out. Better sooner than later. If world leaders in 1938 had had the forsight to go in and take out Hitler you would not have had a war in Europe, and possibly avoided the war in the pacific as Japan would have thought twice about attacking. All it takes is one dictator not kept in check and all hell can break loose. Those who do not learn from history are destined to repeat it. Sorry for all the clich'esQuote:
Originally Posted by mgraepel
Ours. Don't forget most of the world population hates the United States. They may have good reason. But that is not very comforting when we as individuals have to be the recepients of their hatred.Quote:
Originally Posted by mgraepel
This is getting very very far from shaving. :hmmm:
That's why it's in the off-topic thread.
Okay, I know I'm going to get flamed for this one, but I'm gonna say it anyway. If you really want to make the US free, get the oafs that are running the Whitehouse impeached. I'm not going to grandstand or soapbox here, but some honest politicians would be nice for a change. And yes, I know Hilter was a vegetarian that didn't have a drinking problem and didn't philander, but I'd like to think this is a drastically different situation. Hell, if Kerry were in office right now and pulling the kind of nonsense Bush's party is, I'd be saying the exact same thing.
Isn't honest politician a oxymoron . If you look back a few years, wasn't Clinton pulling the same crap. I agree with the decision to go to war, and the philosophy behind it. Politicians are politicians and can't help but be full of shit. It's the nature of the beast. The problem I had with Kerry, and the democratic party, was that they have a seperatist view of thing, and that's something the US can't afford.Quote:
Originally Posted by mgraepel
[QUOTE=mgraepel] And yes, I know Hilter was a vegetarian that didn't have a drinking problem and didn't philander, but I'd like to think this is a drastically different situation. QUOTE]
Sorry, I mean't to address this in my previous reply. This situation only different in location. Back to history again, in 1938 the world underestimated the kind of threat a wallpaper hanging corporal could be. On that same token, we can't underestimate those that we see as a minor threat.
Removed this post as it was in rather poor taste.
Well now I knew it was in the off topic thread. DUH. I was just trying to keep things from maybe going too far and real arguments starting.Quote:
Originally Posted by mgraepel
Personally, I don't believe in professional politicians. I would much rather see our government run and represented by regular citizens who would not be eligible for reelection.
Damm I didn't realize this was going to stir things up. I was just trying to find a coralation to str8 shaving. Well I guess my mom was right never discuss religion or politics. :fim:
But I do agree that politicians should only have a set term and then must get out.:nono:
Well, now that you've brought up religion, let me just say... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by RichZ
Now that is one hell of a spiffy idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rik
That's gotta be one of the most ignorant statements I have heard on this site. If you guys are going to start talking shit, be prepared for some equally offensive responses.Quote:
If you really want to make the US free, get the oafs that are running the Whitehouse impeached.
You know Bill, everyone has a right to their own opinion and I'm going to respect yours. As such, I can't really say I'm offended since you're simply stating your opinion.
I agree with one term maybe two if he or she is doing well, but that is enough. No pensions.Quote:
Originally Posted by RichZ
Yep it is better not to discuss religion and/or politics. It brings out the worst in us and I am not pointing any fingers.
I wish all a good day and Happy Thanksgiving. :)
I apologize if my views offended anyone.
I don't think anyone's opinions offended anyone. That is a personal opinion. But this kind of discussion can get out of hand in a hurry and cause bad and hurt feelings. But we all have to remember we all have an opinion and need to respect all other opinions. Nuf said on my part. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by wopmanfixit
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Originally Posted by wopmanfixit
I was offended... deeply offended by the disrespect shown on this thread, but not by you or anything that you said.
Believe me, I will remember where it came from.
Ah yes I have to fess up. I was also offended by some of the disrespect shown in this thread. I was just trying get it all past us. But that is the problem of political discussions.Quote:
Originally Posted by urleebird
Another Viet Nam Vet who remembers.
This thread needs to end and go away.Quote:
Originally Posted by moshet
'Sa good thing I didn't mention any of my opinions.Quote:
Originally Posted by urleebird
Anyone want to do religion next:D
Why not. That way the pot can really get stirred up. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by RichZ