Ladies and Gentlemen, the title says it all. This is not a troll post inviting dissension and bickering between conservatives and liberals. It may end up that way but that is not my intent.

I run the risk to see if any students of history out there will contribute if they have studied any of the founders enough to know what they might think of where 'we the people' have been the past two hundred years and where we are now.

I've read quite a bit about Jackson and Lincoln but very little on Washington, Franklin, Adams, Jefferson, Hamilton or Madison. So if you know what you're talking about from a historic point of view please contribute. If not we can all learn a little something. One way or the other please keep political persuasion out of it if possible.