Thread: Christmas poll

OK, so do you believe that the person of Jesus being born was a historical fact?


Not a question of Him being the son of God, Messiah, His ressurection, etc....Just simply: was there a human being that we now refer to as Jesus, born, lived and died ~2000 years ago?

I once heard that "Jesus" was a really popular name back then. Like, "Mike."

No doubt. There is documented evidence of it. In fact, the Catholic Church has priests that are "forensic accountants" that are auditing records (The Romans were truly anal about record keeping, had something to do with taxes). I talked to one while visiting The Vatican years ago. It was a fascinating conversation to say the least.

How about a
(don't know) option?


Fwiw, I think there is enough evidence to assume beyond reasonable doubt that a person with that name existed around that time frame, and that he had some notoriety / fame.

I think there was.

I think most historians agree that there was a man named Jesus. Whether or not he was the son of God and whether or not he did all the miracles attributed to him, is up for debate. I believe he did, but I can not scientifically prove it.

Old Roman records point to a troublemaker during that time but other than that?

Originally Posted by Bruno

How about a
(don't know) option?


Fwiw, I think there is enough evidence to assume beyond reasonable doubt that a person with that name existed around that time frame, and that he had some notoriety / fame.

I didn't want any fence sitting!

Originally Posted by Seraphim

I didn't want any fence sitting!

But still, some of us are closer to the fence than others!

So I voted "yes, definitely" because it's closer to my opinion than "no way."

~Rich

(I hadn't read past the first few screens, but I see scrolling down that the discussion seems to have taken the turn I had feared it would, so I'll move on to another thread.)

I haven't gone through all of the previous posts so if this is redundant I apologize. Independent historians of the time such as Josephus mention him. No doubt about the existence of Yeshua.