Thread: The Price of Security

Originally Posted by ControlFreak1

And that idiot Napolitano has the brass to come out and insult us today and say "The system worked."

You are missing the point. The "system" did work because the system's strategy is to hope any explosive devices will fail and then change the subject. Hey, look! This was all inherited from the previous administration.

Before I retired I worked for Homeland Security, Immigration and Customs Enforcement and I spent more nights then I care to remember at the airport interrogating suspected terrorists.

You see we have a very patient enemy. He has all the time and money in the world and very intelligent members and very committed mules willing to die and very competent scientists to sit back and watch us and probe our defenses and strategies. If plan A doesn't work well just wait a few years and try plan B. Eventually they will come up with something novel and it will work and they will be successful, be assured of that. We are always in the mode of playing catchup. All this garbage at the airport is just window dressing to make you feel safe and catch some wannabees or a few crazy opportunists. Its really to make you think you are safe.

When I flew on business or pleasure I was always armed and the flight crews were very glad to have us onboard. All Federal LEO's travel armed and some state and locals do too so the chances of having an armed person on board any given domestic aircraft is really pretty high.

Our enemy knows he can't physically defeat us. However he knows he can force us into bankruptcy with unending military adventures and curtail our freedoms and **** off the citizenry and eventually we will go away. They don't want to turn the world into their society they want us to leave them alone so they can control their part of the world as they see fit.

Make no mistake eventually they will get their hands on a low yield nuclear weapon. It's just a matter of time and then what are you going to do?

So you see you can play political games and blame this one or that for this failure or that. What happened on that plane and its aftermath is really meaningless. It's just a symptom that in this case became public and now people are fretting over it The truth is there are more lists out there then you can imagine and there are millions of names on the lists and the logistics of running such a system are so complex they are like a piece of Swiss Cheese. You want to be safe flying? You want to be personally searched? and X rayed inside and out All you baggage personally searched? Every flight crew and airline employee with access to operational areas personally searched? Every airplane gone over with a finetooth comb for hours after each flight? (that's pretty much what they do in Israel-you get to the airport hours before your flight for security) No, you don't want that then you will never be assured of real safety. Of course this is just our airline system. How about ships arriving and our land borders? and private aircraft?

Just some things to ponder.

If you haven't already, you all should Google "Body Scan" and view some of the actual images and how they'll appear to the TSA viewers. Not veeeeery titillating if you ask me. I'd be more inclined, actually, to back away slowly from any such TSA emp that WOULD be aroused by such images. According to one article, O'Hare has ordered such scanners as has the airport in Boston.

If I ever get scanned, I've already decided that I'll be sticking my gut out as far as it can go and I'll have the largest goofy grin I can come up with across my face. Ooh, and I should eat like 10 hard boiled eggs, four bowls of pea soup, some hummus and a bunch of steamed broccoli beforehand as well. Large volumes of flatulence would be a perfect salute at that point.

I feel better now. I've got it all planned out; now I don't have to think about it anymore. Aren't you guys jealous?

Chris L

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

They don't want to turn the world into their society they want us to leave them alone so they can control their part of the world as they see fit.

This statement is a very poignant one to ponder, no doubt.

Chris L

All I can think of is what some dood said long ago:
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
America should not have any enemies anywhere in the world. I think that we have allowed our so called leaders to make enemies for us.

Originally Posted by ChrisL

If you haven't already, you all should Google "Body Scan" and view some of the actual images and how they'll appear to the TSA viewers. Not veeeeery titillating if you ask me. I'd be more inclined, actually, to back away slowly from any such TSA emp that WOULD be aroused by such images. According to one article, O'Hare has ordered such scanners as has the airport in Boston.

If I ever get scanned, I've already decided that I'll be sticking my gut out as far as it can go and I'll have the largest goofy grin I can come up with across my face. Ooh, and I should eat like 10 hard boiled eggs, four bowls of pea soup, some hummus and a bunch of steamed broccoli beforehand as well. Large volumes of flatulence would be a perfect salute at that point.

I feel better now. I've got it all planned out; now I don't have to think about it anymore. Aren't you guys jealous?

Chris L

Just did--they look like anatomically correct (albeit barely) crash test dummies w/ handguns stuffed down their waistbands! Agreed about the flatulence for the scanner--really better for the "puffer" machines, though. I've always wondered if there were any nitroamines in fart gas!

Originally Posted by TexasBob

You are missing the point. The "system" did work because the system's strategy is to hope any explosive devices will fail and then change the subject. Hey, look! This was all inherited from the previous administration.

Oh hell ya, Bush probly trained that dumb sum'bitch! Heck Bob you may be more correct than many people would admit, that may be more in line with 'their system'.

Hell, the only thing that 'worked' was, thank the Lord, the good passengers on the plane who didn't have the time to make some stupid retarded bureaucratic PC analysis, instead they just did the normal intelligent human thing and jumped on and pummeled that sorry c*ck-sucker.

P.S. - Too bad that he couldn't have just burned himself up, no doubt would have saved us tax paying Americans untold millions in legal cost, food, housing, protection, healthcare, leisure, entertainment, comfort, spinning the media to make him look like a victim of America, and who knows what else for that maggot.