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Thread: Discrimination
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02-18-2010, 10:08 AM #31
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02-18-2010, 11:25 AM #32
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02-19-2010, 04:12 PM #33
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02-20-2010, 01:52 PM #34
I still say you have it backwards. Out of 10, 9 are probably the best guys you'd ever meet.
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02-20-2010, 02:25 PM #35
greg,
I agree with you...People do corrupt the meaning of words. In the case of your encounter with the unnamed female at the pool, however, it seems to me that she has an overly narrow or constricted view of the definition of discrimination.
Discriminating on the basis of a person's condition that can change--such as age or height to insure their safety is reasonable. To discriminate on the basis of a person's condition that has no bearing on their ability to make safe use of the pool, such as race, sex, religion, etc. is unreasonable and certainly illegal and immoral, imho.
Stand your ground..."Age is an issue of mind over matter. If you don't mind, it doesn't matter." Mark Twain
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02-20-2010, 03:20 PM #36
Quote "Originally Posted by ShavedZombie
Discrimination is only bad when it is used to confine people WITHOUT REASON. For example:
If I see a guy with tattoos and a leather jacket that says "HATE" in big red letters, I'm avoiding him. That's prejudice, and he may be the world's nicest man, but, 9/10 times, he isn't.
I should work on rambling less.
Cheers,
Jeremy"
I think that if you avoid him, then that is "discrimination"...THe way I always remember the diff is the way I learned it in an army class back in the 80's (which the content was not very PC, but makes sense to a knuckle dragger like me):
I like big breasted women...I don't like small breasted women...That is being "prejudiced" toward small breasted women... I only date large breasted women..I don't date small breasted women..That is discrimating toward small breased women..See the diff?
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02-20-2010, 04:14 PM #37
In that case, I think it's more accurate to say that people -- here, the "unnamed" woman at the pool (heh heh) -- misinterpret the definitions of words. To say that this lady "corrupted" the word discrimination implies that she knew its true meaning, but instead tried to spin it to her advantage, perhaps thinking to herself that the managers of a public pool would be frightened into letting her have her way if she accused them of political incorrectness. The word "corrupt" has mostly scheming connotations, you see. The reality is, she was probably just some ignorant low-life who had already peed in the pool a couple of times that day.
Discriminating on the basis of a person's condition that can change--such as age or height to insure their safety is reasonable. To discriminate on the basis of a person's condition that has no bearing on their ability to make safe use of the pool, such as race, sex, religion, etc. is unreasonable and certainly illegal and immoral, imho.
Stand your ground...
Yep. I'm not a lifeguard, but I imagine this rule is enforced in order to monitor the swimmers more easily. I mean, there's no reason a six-year-old can't swim very, very well; but chances are, most in his age group are not going to have the same skills. So rather than let the little brats jump in wherever they like for a trial and error swim at a depth of 12 feet with no water wings, you keep them in the shallow end. If the management bore no responsibility for the swimmers, they wouldn't pay lifeguards to be there all day to look after them, and then they could be as reckless as they wanted.
That's obviously not how it works, however, and I'd have told her so.
"'Discrimination,' ma'am? No, not at all. We're simply looking out for your safety, as well as everyone else's. Now why don't you go dangle your feet in the water and keep your big mouth shut before I kick you out of here, okay?"
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02-20-2010, 04:16 PM #38
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02-20-2010, 09:32 PM #39
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