Thread: In 1492 Columbus sailed the ocean blue...

Here's the link to the WHO website:
WHO | Second-hand tobacco smoke

As I read it, it doesn't say what you said it says. See?
Don't know where you got your info on this

Originally Posted by AussiePostie

You have apparentlly not read the WORLD HEALTH ORGANISATIONS own study on this subject- Their CONCLUSION, the results of the W.H.O study on ETS were"statistically insignificant" and there are more REAL scientific studies that reach the same conclusions. Please go to DR. M.SIEGELS blogspot "the rest of the story" as an advocate of tobacco control for 30 years even he cannot believe the junk science being used to back up smoking bans these days.

ETS is annoying,irratating and smelly to non-smokers,but it is not dangerous.

Back on topic, I have never been into ships, did a little research,wow I was surprised at how small those ships were. Defineatly a brave bunch of men who would cross the atlantic in one. I would have been a coast hugger for sure .

Originally Posted by billyjeff2

Here's the link to the WHO website:
WHO | Second-hand tobacco smoke

As I read it, it doesn't say what you said it says. See?
Don't know where you got your info on this

That is because that is not the complete study, that is what they tell the public.
I see you went straight to thier public propagander site,You have to actually do a little research and find the original complete study from 1998,which is most likely not easy to find nowdays. Please, if you are truly interested in this subject, research a little further than so called health organisations and anti-smoking groups. As I advised go to DR.Siegels blog site "the rest of the story" As I have said he and many other tobacco control advocates are trying to distance themselves from the "junk science" being trotted out nowdays as the truth.

P.S I don,t see what all this has to do with sailing off the edge of the world

I guess they believed it because sometimes people went off on these voyages and were never seen again.

There are also weird things that happen at sea, storms, giant creatures they'd never have seen before, St Elmos fire...

So the sailors that made it back would have been telling these stories about what they'd seen, and probably embellishing some , and these rumours of the edge of the earth and creatures from the pits of Hell would have started.

And then people would start believing that those who didnt come back had been taken by these creatures, or fallen off the edge of the earth.

What do you mean the earth is ROUND?!?!? Sacrilege! Burn him, burn him.

Please pass this onto Cousin Festus and ask him to join me in membership of this worthy club: The Flat Earth Society

Claiming the earth is flat was probably just stories seamen told to ignorant landlubbers. The fact that the earth is round was known already in the ancient Greece.

On those times there were few methods to determine ships position. They could find out the latitude (north-south position from any reference point that been agreed beforehand) observing stars with various devices and comparing it to star maps. Longitude (east-west) was more complicated and there was no fool proof method before decent chronometer was innovated. Determining ships speed was probably how they tried to guess their east/west position. Only way you could even somehow find out the speed was using hand log and/or observing current/wind speeds and directions.
Also marine charts were totally different than today. They were very primitive and inaccurate and used several different projections with various reference points (nowadays equator and Greenwich UK).

Mariners of today have it much more difficult. You can no more lie to your wife of being caught by a sea monster if coming back home gets little late.

Originally Posted by Stubear

I guess they believed it because sometimes people went off on these voyages and were never seen again.

There are also weird things that happen at sea, storms, giant creatures they'd never have seen before, St Elmos fire...

So the sailors that made it back would have been telling these stories about what they'd seen, and probably embellishing some , and these rumours of the edge of the earth and creatures from the pits of Hell would have started.

And then people would start believing that those who didnt come back had been taken by these creatures, or fallen off the edge of the earth.

What he said

Jordan