Thread: Has anyone read the new US health care legislation?

Has anyone read the new US health care legislation?

I would like to read it before I open my big mouth and
say something stupid about it,

I gave a quick look for and did not find the text for it.
If anyone finds it please post a link...

I think it is 1500 pages or so and I am told by wikipedia that:
"Leo Tolstoy, War and Peace Published from 1865 to 1869. Original text has some 460,000 Russian and French words. English translation contains over 560,000 words and over 3.1 million characters; typically over 1400 pages as a paperback."
So, yes I know that I am signing up for a long dry read....

The Senate Bill 3590 - 2,409 pages
Roll Call #396 Details


The House Bill 4872 - 2,310 pages
Roll Call #167 Details

The latest inserted revisions which were approved by the House yesterday apparently do not have to be voted on by the Senate (I guess this is the reconciliation portion of the final house bill), as the bill is already headed to the President for signing into law

I still haven't read the whole SRP Wiki ....

I think its mainly insurance regulation than it is "health care" anything but, no, I haven't read it. The people that voted for it haven't read it either though. These types of actions are piece milled together. All of the legislation isn't about health care/insurance regulation I am sure. I know that CNN was saying something about student loan legislation being in it as well... and something about increasing the Pell grant from $5500 a year to $5900 a year by 2017.

lol government people kill me... seriously.

Contact SRP member Denmason, hes got 1800 pages into it so far! I wonder if my rep has even read the title.

Originally Posted by AnarchoPhil

I know that CNN was saying something about student loan legislation being in it as well... and something about increasing the Pell grant from $5500 a year to $5900 a year by 2017.

Yep. The education portion of the health care bill starts at page 2,099 and goes on for 211 pages (to the end of the bill) in the following sections:

Title I: Investing in Students and Families
Title II: Student Loan Reform
Title III: Modernization, Renovation, and Repair
Title IV: Early Learning Challenge Fund
Title V: American Graduation Initiative

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

I still haven't read the whole SRP Wiki ....

Oh my...

Desregarding the website it's located on, this is the best non-slanted summation I've read to date:

Health care reform bill 101: What does it mean for kids and families? / The Christian Science Monitor - CSMonitor.com

Originally Posted by 6Myles

Desregarding the website it's located on, this is the best non-slanted summation I've read to date:

Health care reform bill 101: What does it mean for kids and families? / The Christian Science Monitor - CSMonitor.com

Hey thanks for the link. For many who may be unsure of the what the the law entails this is a great read.

Originally Posted by 6Myles

Desregarding the website it's located on, this is the best non-slanted summation I've read to date:

Health care reform bill 101: What does it mean for kids and families? / The Christian Science Monitor - CSMonitor.com

Article is a good read, seen it yesterday. Most people have no idea what this bill is really about. One of the unconstitutional provisions of this proposed legislative abortion called health care reform is the mandate that all Americans must buy health insurance. If someone doesn’t buy health insurance they WILL be subject to fines and/or penalties. The way the government is going to collect these fines/penalties is by use of IRS enforcement – not exactly what the mission of this powerful Federal agency is. The only way the IRS can establish whether or not you have the “big brother” mandated health insurance is to check your medical records!
Even with electronic medical records as the “source documents” for establishing non-compliance, the job of discovering these “violations” will be impossible unless our doctors, clinics and hospitals become “mandated reporters” – seek treatment, have no insurance and the health care provider will send an “electronic signal” to the IRS and in addition to your medical problems, you are going to suffer real pain!
The cost of this proposed “police state” enforcement is estimated by the CBO at $11 billion over the next ten years and will require at least 17,000 new IRS employees. That must be the Obama administration’s idea of “job creation”.
The problem is not with the records, it’s with the communist, fascist, socialist, anti-American, unconstitutional, government we’re headed for. Maybe it is time to throw more than just tea into Boston Harbor; it’s time to throw out not only all these elected scumbags, but both parties as well!