Thread: Health Care Reform; States suing as unconstitutional

Originally Posted by hoglahoo

And I can pick and choose how my money is spent by lobbying congress with my loads of evil money

No you can't.

Originally Posted by hoglahoo

PS I'm not complaining about not having to pay taxes; in fact I am happy that I have the option. or were you referring to something else?

Yes something else.

Originally Posted by NYCshaver

No you can't.

I can, actually

Originally Posted by NYCshaver

Yes something else.

Ah. In that case the context from me which you quoted did not contain the alleged whine, and I do not feel confident in responding to the (probably accidentally) misreferenced assertion

Originally Posted by hoglahoo

I can, actually

nope

Originally Posted by hoglahoo

Ah. In that case the context from me which you quoted did not contain the alleged whine, and I do not feel confident in responding to the (probably accidentally) misreferenced assertion

I made no mention of a whine.

Originally Posted by NYCshaver

I made no mention of a whine.

well then, stop complaining

I just can't comprehend why you're willing to pay for things that are non-essential to a person's survival (but we consider them rights all the same), and yet not for things that ARE essential to a person's survival. Learning to read is a right, but living is not?

Offer me a better explanation. I can't find one.

Originally Posted by MistressNomad

I just can't comprehend why you're willing to pay for things that are non-essential to a person's survival (but we consider them rights all the same), and yet not for things that ARE essential to a person's survival. Learning to read is a right, but living is not?

Offer me a better explanation. I can't find one.

I'm willing to pay for the essentials, and I do through various methods. But the more power the government takes from me in order to force its choice over mine, the fewer options I have available to myself to pay for those essentials (for myself and for others) as I please. I thought that ideally we elect representatives to protect our economic liberty, not restrict it

I never claimed that learning to read is a right, and I don't pay any federal taxes for public education. But the local government collects so much from me for education, I don't have any left for education. I guess if I want to free up more cash to help fund the schools, I'll have to sell my house or move out of the district where property taxes are so high.

In a developed nation, where we do generally believe living is a right, that simply isn't possible. That's why every other developed nation has universal health care.

You cannot guarantee another person's right to life through a cut-throat (pun not intended ) system of rich and poor. And that's what we have.

The reason you can have your nice life, with cheap internet, safe food, and general freedom from the worries of a tribal person living in the forest is because of the collective infrastructure of the developed society in which we live.

A developed society which tries to take care of your essential needs so that you have the freedom to contribute intellectually and physically however you like. Humans are creatures of the mind.

Why do you think you even have the time in the day to worry about shaving?

Isn't this all a bit foppish?


-Rob