A question on Christian Scripture.

Thanks Jimmy for continuing with me. As well for taking no offense. Or if you did, then thank you for getting over it so quickly. I know you are a good man as are the others who have made their voices heard here.

This has not been the question-how to be good. I am more interested in being a sage and saint. It does seem to be something of a struggle for most which is why i have been surprised there has been little to no discussion on forgiveness.

It would have been better had I freshly read those chapters in 1 Corinthians. It speaks further of exactly what you just described in context of sin.
I could try to say my words were imprecise, but i was headed more in the wrong direction to an extent. I still think he really means that All things are lawful to him(that has the mind of christ) but there are some he just will not do, (and will not be brought under the power of any law)

I was really headed in the wrong direction, but when I woke up this morning I was thinking more about two people in the same circumstances for one it is sinful and the other not. For instance great wealth. The sinner being the one who's identity of self is tied to the circumstances.
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but then there is a parable about that.

Now if you guys think I'm just fishin' for an argument you are wrong. But it is time for me to go fishing, being only a fisher of fish i have a couple spots where I must be as it is not easy to catch walleye from the bank in oklahoma. and I am hungry after what could have been a difficult day if i was the same guy as a few months back

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Originally Posted by kevint

Now if you guys think I'm just fishin' for an argument you are wrong. But it is time for me to go fishing, being only a fisher of fish i have a couple spots where I must be as it is not easy to catch walleye from the bank in oklahoma. and I am hungry after what could have been a difficult day if i was the same guy as a few months back

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You bring the fish and I will bring the loaves!

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Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

It is interesting that until they ate of the fruit from the tree of life Adam and Eve didn't know they were naked. So with the knowledge of sin comes the need for the fig leaf.

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There is absolutely no mention whatsoever of "sin", in all of Genesis 3. Not an allusion, not a hint, not even a whiff. Nothing. Nada. Zip. Zero. It's simply not there.

"Knowledge", however, is a different kettle-of-fish. In this case, it was of the most basic kind: knowledge of one's self -- of a "self" which was separate and different; a "self" with external needs and status.

Self-awareness. It sure makes things difficult; but it's not a sin.

Hey Keven, where are you fishing in OK? Anywhere near the OK/TX line? Off topic, but I couldn't pass it up...I'm off today and tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by kevint

i have been surprised there has been little to no discussion on forgiveness.

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me too....................

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Originally Posted by hoglahoo

me too....................

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Trust me..... I have been forgiven quite a bit!

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Originally Posted by nun2sharp

Trust me..... I have been forgiven quite a bit!

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:D....................

I am greatful for the forgiveness I receive...

Found 19 verses containing FORGIVENESS.
Showing all verses.

Deuteronomy 30:1 (Show Deuteronomy 30)

Repentance and Forgiveness
“And when all these things come upon you, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before you, and you call them to mind among all the nations where the Lord your God has driven you,

Psalm 130:4 (Show Psalm 130)
But with you there is forgiveness, that you may be feared.

Daniel 9:9 (Show Daniel 9)
To the Lord our God belong mercy and forgiveness, for we have rebelled against him

Matthew 26:28 (Show Matthew 26)
for this is my blood of the[1] covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.
[1]Some manuscripts insert new

Mark 1:4 (Show Mark 1)
John appeared, baptizing in the wilderness and proclaiming a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins.

Mark 3:29 (Show Mark 3)
but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin”—

Luke 1:77 (Show Luke 1)
to give knowledge of salvation to his people in the forgiveness of their sins,

Luke 3:3 (Show Luke 3)
And he went into all the region around the Jordan, proclaiming a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins.

Luke 24:47 (Show Luke 24)
and that repentance and forgiveness of sins should be proclaimed in his name to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem.

John 20:23 (Show John 20)
If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you withhold forgiveness from any, it is withheld.”

Acts 2:38 (Show Acts 2)
And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Acts 5:31 (Show Acts 5)
God exalted him at his right hand as Leader and Savior, to give repentance to Israel and forgiveness of sins.

Acts 10:43 (Show Acts 10)
To him all the prophets bear witness that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.”

Acts 13:38 (Show Acts 13)
Let it be known to you therefore, brothers, that through this man forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you,

Acts 26:18 (Show Acts 26)
to open their eyes, so that they may turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan to God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified by faith in me.’

Ephesians 1:7 (Show Ephesians 1)
In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace,

Colossians 1:14 (Show Colossians 1)
in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.

Hebrews 9:22 (Show Hebrews 9)
Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins.

Hebrews 10:18 (Show Hebrews 10)
Where there is forgiveness of these, there is no longer any offering for sin.

Without forgiveness there is no good news. :shrug: It is a given, in more ways than one. :)

Help me out guys, I have one problem...I received the HS before I was baptized.

Acts 2:38
And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.