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11-18-2010, 06:47 PM #1
Well, in an earlier post, welshwizrd called homosexuality unnatural and wrong. And I have known several people call homosexuality wrong because it is unnatural.
Originally Posted by frank47
But it isn't unnatural.
So if someone says it is wrong because it is unnatural, then they were either just making up arguments to support their moral ideas, or they will revise their judgement. I still don't say that it is wrong to think that homosexuality is wrong. But if someone tries to underpin it with reason instead of opinion, then those reasons had better check out.
Since people are getting into the reasons why homosexuality is wrong (or not) I wanted to remove the naturality from the list of arguments.Last edited by Bruno; 11-18-2010 at 06:50 PM.
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11-18-2010, 06:58 PM #2This is not my actual head.
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11-18-2010, 07:38 PM
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To be fair then, and I don't have a dog in this fight, just because it is natural for some animals in the kingdom to be homosexual what is the rational for automatically imputing it on the human race? I'm just trying to keep the logic logical.
11-18-2010, 08:12 PM
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It happens in the animal kingdom. Humans are just another example of it happening in the animal kingdom.
11-18-2010, 08:34 PM
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I know what is trying to be said but it doesn't prove it is natural in the human race. The logic is erroneous. That is not to say it is not natural in the human race, it just can not be proven with this line of reasoning.
11-18-2010, 08:47 PM
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Well what do you define as unnatural? We aren't giving someone a chemical to make them become homosexual. We aren't performing some operation on them to make them homosexual.
If it's natural when other animals do it in the animal kingdom why wouldn't it be natural if humans do it?
11-18-2010, 10:08 PM
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No, but maybe just to help them along the road a bit.
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11-19-2010, 04:42 AM
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NYCshaver, I'm not saying it wouldn't be natural. All I was saying is that you have not PROVED and cannot PROVE that homosexuality in the human race is natural from your line of reasoning. The following is not meant to upset anyone - boy I hate to have to preamble comments but I quess we need to today. What if I posit (and again I don't necessarily agree) that homosexuality in the human race is the result of
1) a genetic disorder
and/or
2) juvenile peer group pressure
What you demonstrated would still hold true but neither 1) or 2) is natural. The first is a defect (not normal) and the second is nothing more than group influence.
Does a person have to have had an operation or some chemical to become a murderer? See what I mean?
Does that help. If not let me know and I will try again.
BTW, I shaved today with a DE razor (usually I go str8, no pun intended) and it was still fun and nostalgic. Got a BBS out of it also. I will not though use one of those plastic face rakes.
