Constitutionality of Obamacare

**mhailey** · 09-17-2009, 01:06 PM

I know that we some lawyers, aspiring lawyers, and very intelligent persons here on this forum. So, I pose the questions to you:

Is the National Health Care System (Obamacare) Constitutional?

How does the Federal Government have the jurisdiction to try and impose a national health care system? What provision of the Constitution grants them this authority?

**hoglahoo** · 09-17-2009, 01:24 PM

who cares about the Contitution? people need affordable insurance, Obama says yes we can, and that's the bottom line

**JimmyHAD** · 09-17-2009, 01:25 PM

Hadn't thought of that before

Let's do away with social security, medicare, school lunch programs, pell grants, SSI or any social program designed to make life better and maybe easier for it's citizens.

Lets just devote all of the govs resources to the altar where it worships, the military industrial complex. I think people who would call it 'Obamacare' would worship there too ?

We can go back to the Darwinian, survival of the fittest, society of rugged individualists and let the devil take the hindmost. Those against NHS would probably like that.

**Slartibartfast** · 09-17-2009, 01:46 PM

I dont remember a socialized medicine clause.... Will have to go re-read it.....

I believe Patrick Henry said it best... "Give me cheap prescription drugs or give me death!"

**mhailey** · 09-17-2009, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

Hadn't thought of that before

Let's do away with social security, medicare, school lunch programs, pell grants, SSI or any social program designed to make life better and maybe easier for it's citizens.

Lets just devote all of the govs resources to the altar where it worships, the military industrial complex. I think people who would call it 'Obamacare' would worship there too ?

We can go back to the Darwinian, survival of the fittest, society of rugged individualists and let the devil take the hindmost. Those against NHS would probably like that.

Where in this answer is the contitutionality of the proposed system addressed?

**Mandrake** · 09-17-2009, 02:24 PM

I am a lawyer, but in Spain....But have to admit that have never seen a National Health System going against the Constitution in any country, but I'll keep reading....

**JimmyHAD** · 09-17-2009, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by mhailey

Where in this answer is the contitutionality of the proposed system addressed?

I don't know the document that well. Where is it prohibited ?

**DPflaumer** · 09-17-2009, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by hoglahoo

who cares about the Contitution? people need affordable insurance, Obama says yes we can, and that's the bottom line

I couldn't agree more. Anyone who thinks affordable health care for all is a bad idea needs to take a quick trip to my hometown. No one can afford to even visit the doctor, let alone any kind of surgery.

**gssixgun** · 09-17-2009, 02:30 PM

This is one time I agree with Jimmy on a political thread

We have trampled all over the Constitution so much in the past 80 years that one more muddy boot print ain't gonna make any difference...
Trying to argue constitutionality is pretty much a joke any more...

Now if yer serious about this part count me in...

Let's do away with social security, medicare, school lunch programs, pell grants, SSI ...

However I would like to add welfare, school taxes, WIC, hmmm basically anything that does not benefit everybody equally we should do away with...

If I can't have it why should anyone else??? seriously think about what I just said, why should there be ANY government run or funded programs that are not available to everybody??????

I am pretty tired of being singled out for being a Married White Hetero Male no Kids, upper middle income bracket, home owning, citizen that is not entitled to a damn thing except my tax bill...

Seriously here, I don't get a thing except The military, Fire protection, and Police protection and the Highways dept... and if you saw where I lived the last three are spotty...

Why do I get NO tax breaks???? I don't use the public anything.... until somebody can explain that, anything that means I give more away I will say NO to....

"NO WE CAN"T"

**sicboater** · 09-17-2009, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by gssixgun

This is one time I agree with Jimmy on a political thread

We have trampled all over the Constitution so much in the past 80 years that one more muddy boot print ain't gonna make any difference...
Trying to argue constitutionality is pretty much a joke any more...

Which is why this thread is about the contitution.

sorry, sorry...Hi, my name is Rob, I am pedantic.

-Rob

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