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    Default It is always darkest before dawn - for neutrinos?

    Could it be?
    If it's true, it will mark the biggest discovery in physics in the past half-century: Elusive, nearly massless subatomic particles called neutrinos appear to travel just faster than light, a team of physicists in Europe reports. If so, the observation would wreck Einstein's theory of special relativity, which demands that nothing can travel faster than light.
    Neutrinos Travel Faster Than Light, According to One Experiment - ScienceNOW
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    Very interesting, I have heard that according to the way speed/distance is currently measured, there are some quasars (or at least one) moving 8 times the speed of light....

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    Quote Originally Posted by coachschaller View Post
    Very interesting, I have heard that according to the way speed/distance is currently measured, there are some quasars (or at least one) moving 8 times the speed of light....
    True, that has been debated. The prevailing theory though is that those measurements are derived from the optical illusion of such fast-moving objects so long ago/far away Superluminal motion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Maybe this will give nerds something new to talk about for awhile at least
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    Thanks for the link, I read it in compilation book of about 1600 pages, would have taken me forever to find it that way. Google might have faster.

    Quote,"Maybe this will give nerds something new to talk about for awhile at least."

    Hey, I resemble that remark.... Well that and being a dumb jock.

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    Technically, nothing with positive mass can go faster than light in perfect vacuum.

    Things go faster than light in water / glass / etc all the time.
    The speed of light in water is much lower than the speed of emitted positrons, which causes Cherenkov radiation. CR is like a sonic boom, only for light instead of sound.
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    I just checked /.
    Always a useful barometer for judging physics articles.
    From the various comments I read, there are many possible mundane explanations that need to be excluded before we can conclude that special relativity has been violated.

    Interesting stuff nonetheless.
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    All I have to say is, "I like my Newtons with a cold glass of milk, sitting in front of my color Quasar 19" TV."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hirlau View Post
    All I have to say is, "I like my Newtons with a cold glass of milk, sitting in front of my color Quasar 19" TV."

    MMMMM I love Newtons, a cookie is just a cookie but a Newton is fruit and cake!
    Well after looking at the diagrams on superluminal motion that hoglahoo linked, the recent thread from Alembic about learning the Bass, and the studies for Ordination.... My brain is done. I am going to spend a few moments quality time with the Mrs., take a shower, and scrape the whiskers off the piece of leather that is my face, and go to bed! I wonder if my whiskers contain neutrinos, since in a little while they will be shorn asunder by my MK31

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    Yeah, just another theory like the global warming and the evolution.... You can either keep an open mind and be tossed like the waves of the sea, or believe firmly in something that doesn't change and never waver!

    Yee-haw!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoglahoo View Post
    Maybe this will give nerds something new to talk about for awhile at least
    Since you're talking about it could you be a nerd?

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