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01-08-2012, 06:47 PM #1
And many people who lean a particular direction change their beliefs even later in life. They become disillusioned by the vast gulf that seems to exist between a party's stated goals, and their actual agenda. For example, I often say that George Bush created more liberals than all the Kennedys put together. But then, I'm sure some will counter that Obama created more conservatives than Reagan, or something similar.
For my part, I rarely discuss politics or religion, though I am interested in both. Both subjects seem to cause as much division as consensus.There are many roads to sharp.
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01-08-2012, 07:15 PM #2
Obviously, since I started this thread, I don't always avoid discussion of politics, religion or even genetics. Even though discussion doesn't usually change minds, I think occasional discussions like these are helpful.
One summer, I worked out of town during the week, and drove home for the weekends to spend time with my wife. It always seemed like our relationship improved as the weekend went on. I concluded that our "wheels" spun independently of each other all week, how we felt and what we were thinking, and when we got together there was a grinding of gears, and a noticeable period where our awareness of the other synchronized.
Even though this might not be a good example, I think it useful to periodically discuss politics with others of alternate viewpoints. Without these periodic times when we listen to someone else, it is like we are spinning off into other worlds. Then, just like the Rattlers and Eagles, when we become aware of others, we are more inclined to steal each others flags, then together help pull a truck out of mud.
(Forgive the awkward analogies, and thought progressions.)
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01-08-2012, 07:30 PM #3
Good point, Larry-It does seem that the really far-out wing-nuts out on the edges of the political spectrum (left OR right) are the ones who only listen to each other, to the media (books, magazines, blogs, talking heads) that agrees with their viewpoint, and don't stay grounded in conversations that might make them more pragmatist, and less partisan.
I have said for years (and have tried to do this when I can since college) that thinking people who would stay truly informed need to read, listen to, watch and judge viewpoints from all sides of the political spectrum. As a teacher of high school seniors for the last 15 years, I have met and talked to students and parents from ALL walks of life-the good, the bad, and the ugly. It definitely gives you a different perspective from someone who only socializes with people much like themselves (which, let's face it, many people do).
Having said that, I keep my politics and religion out of the classroom. What disgusts me are teachers who use their position as a bully pulpit to try to recruit converts to the cause. Sorry, this is OT from your original post (which is interesting, by the way-I have long suspected that we are far more prisoners of our genes than we would like to admit...). Take care-SHDThere are many roads to sharp.
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01-08-2012, 10:42 PM #4
This whole thing really is related to a previous discussion here a while back where we discussed how people involved in certain academic disciplines tended to be conservative or liberal like people in the sciences tend to be conservative and engineers were very conservative and those in the social sciences were way more liberal. Did they get that way because of their education or was there something in their makeup which pushed them in certain directions?
No matter how many men you kill you can't kill your successor-Emperor Nero
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01-08-2012, 10:48 PM #5
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01-09-2012, 03:15 AM #6
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01-09-2012, 03:59 AM #7
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Thanked: 90My political leanings have varied quite a bit over the years. When I was very young, I was rather liberal I suppose, but in my 20s and through most of my 30s I was very conservative. At this point in my life, I am unclassifiable. I try to look at issues non-ideologically. I am pro 2nd amendment, pro choice, and very libertarian in some regards. When it comes to economic issues I sometimes get confused with a marxist or a free-market republican, depending on the issue. For example, pro nationalized health care, pro sending bankers to jail, anti bail out, anti union, pro labor and I want to bring back Johnson's Great Society.
I think that people take positions on issues simply because of the party that they affiliate themselves with. For example, if you're a Republican, you will more likely take a pro-life (as an example) stance than not, even though you may not have a very well formed opinion, or even care. Your party affiliation will push you into a position. It's the same if you're a Democrat.
I think most of the people here tend to stray outside of their "party lines" and come to their own conclusions, which is one of the things I like about the group here. People are, for the most part, pretty open minded and willing to look at issues from different sides.Last edited by joesixpack; 01-09-2012 at 04:01 AM.