Thread: Increase the gas mileage...what works for you and your ride?

From what I saw tje mythbusters were attempting to run the car entirely on hydrogen. What I was talking about was having the generator in addition to the fuel. I too don't really believe a 100% increase. I was just ciing what someone claimed. Sorry if I came off as stating it as a fact. HHO generators do work though. You have to direct the hydrogen into the intake. It will increase gas mileage if you do it right.

A few months ago a local tv station did a segment, they purchased a bunch of gadgets that claim that you would get better gas mileage like a tornado thingie added to the air intake hose,different air filter gas additives etc results none of them made a noticeable difference, then they brought the car to a reputable mechanic and add the entire fuel system clean up cost $120 to do the job, results 4 to 5 more miles per gallon!!!

All I can tell you is that I put a K&N cold air intake on my Chrysler hemi 300 C, the racing version while not legal for the street, who cares? And my mileage they go up, but it also went down as it really does add a few extra ponies under the hood, however if I leave the dashboard setting on mpg, which is the equivalent of a vacuum gauge and behave myself. I do get better gas mileage. As for the Hypertech my buddy used it on his car, and it seems to work well on his although he's using it for more power. As for the stainless steel exhaust, be careful what you buy. As I put one on my BMW and it wasn't worth the trade-off of noise versus power. In any event, have fun.
Griz

Originally Posted by bulldog

From what I saw tje mythbusters were attempting to run the car entirely on hydrogen. What I was talking about was having the generator in addition to the fuel. I too don't really believe a 100% increase. I was just ciing what someone claimed. Sorry if I came off as stating it as a fact. HHO generators do work though. You have to direct the hydrogen into the intake. It will increase gas mileage if you do it right.

You don't get something for nothing though.

It takes electricity to disassociate the water into hydrogen and oxygen. This isn't 100% efficient. Then when you burn the hydrogen and oxygen you get some energy back, this isn't 100% efficient either.

If you are getting the electricity from the cars electrical system you are taking gasoline and making electricity then converting the gasses back to heat losing efficiency both ways. So your net is going to be LESS gas mileage.

oh you could also put a turbo charger on it! that will increase fuel burning efficiency AND power! win win!

Add a second fuel tank. My 4WD came standard with duel 90 litre tanks. That doesn't do anything to reduce fuel usage of course, but it will give you more leeway before you finally run out.
Convert to LPG (natural gas/propane or whatever you blokes call it over there) it costs quite a bit less (here at least) to fill up on.

Mick

Originally Posted by Crotalus

You don't get something for nothing though.

It takes electricity to disassociate the water into hydrogen and oxygen. This isn't 100% efficient. Then when you burn the hydrogen and oxygen you get some energy back, this isn't 100% efficient either.

The energy returned is not the energy from the electricity being transferred to another form - the amount of electricity it takes to separate hydrogen and oxygen has nothing to do with the amount of energy that can be created by burning hydrogen and oxygen.

That said, I suspect it is still a net loss - otherwise we'd all be running out houses on HHO generators.

Originally Posted by HNSB

the amount of electricity it takes to separate hydrogen and oxygen has nothing to do with the amount of energy that can be created by burning hydrogen and oxygen.

Actually, they are pretty much 2 sides of the same coin. There are of course net losses in both sides of the process, so you'll have a deficit.
But oxidizing (burning) hydrogen is basically the reverse process of separating it, the energy levels required are very much related.

You insert energy to separate them, and then generate energy by combining them to their initial state.

The turbo concept is something that is completely alien to me, but obviously it works as Ford is doing it a lot now with the new cars. It's something I need to educate myself on...afraid of the up front costs though. Any websites you may recommend?

When I was a youngster my dad used to run LPG (propane) on a carburated vehicle, but I don't know if there are any fuel injection systems out there...would again have to educate myself. Only issue I could see there is finding fuel when traveling a distance. Would want to keep the gasoline option if I were to try LPG.

You guys have my wheels turning now...that's what I was hoping for! Keep it coming! Now I have some research to do.

Originally Posted by shooter74743

The turbo concept is something that is completely alien to me, but obviously it works as Ford is doing it a lot now with the new cars. It's something I need to educate myself on...afraid of the up front costs though. Any websites you may recommend?

When I was a youngster my dad used to run LPG (propane) on a carburated vehicle, but I don't know if there are any fuel injection systems out there...would again have to educate myself. Only issue I could see there is finding fuel when traveling a distance. Would want to keep the gasoline option if I were to try LPG.
You guys have my wheels turning now...that's what I was hoping for! Keep it coming! Now I have some research to do.

Some people opt for a dual fuel setup. For example they have the standard tank in place and then add a cylinder for LPG. The only drawback to that, that I could ever see, was that the cylinder for the LPG took up space in the boot (trunk?) or the back of the tray right behind the cab in a Ute (pickup?). I don't know how you would go with placement in your vehicle.


Mick