Quote Originally Posted by Bruno View Post
Not quite. At that point, Trayvon could be entirely justified in starting the fight, especially if zimmerman had shown his weapon and trayvon felt threatened (which is a real option). I think that if you do no wrong and someone hassles you, follows you, and threatens you with a gun, you'd be justified in using force. Whether zimmerman has wounds because of that really does not have any bearing on whether trayvon was justified in starting the fight.

Common sense would dictate this to be the case, and the syg law does so explicitly.

Picture the opposite: I threaten you with a gun. You jump me and beat me in the head. I shoot you. Can I claim self defense?

Sorry, I can't picture this. If someone threatens me with a gun the last thing I am going to do is jump him. This is too much of a stretch.