Thread: A father's Love and Rage

It's a difficult thing, but I still feel we should love our enemies. It's not their fault there is evil in the world. My nature would be to hurt them very badly, but I'd be the one to have to live with that. I couldn't reconcile that act, as much as the darker side of my nature might relish it. I'd like to think of a higher aim. I'd like to think that love could prevail. All very esoteric and airy fairy, I know...

[EDIT] To add to this...

I very much respect guys' tendencies to want to enact extreme acts of violence on the perpetrator, but, without wanting to sound condescending, we can all over emphasise our physical capabilities at times.

I think maybe at times we need to hold our ideals above any physical thing, even if that physical thing is our own child. I know that's a very extreme ideal, and I don't know if I could do it, but when I hear of parents in Africa being forced to kill their own kids, I feel that life is not worth corruption of one's values. I would certainly kill someone attacking my family with ease, but I'd still feel soiled by the act, I'm certain.

Maybe the dude got what he deserved but i cannot be happy for death of anyone.

Originally Posted by carlmaloschneider

I think maybe at times we need to hold our ideals above any physical thing, even if that physical thing is our own child. I know that's a very extreme ideal, and I don't know if I could do it, but when I hear of parents in Africa being forced to kill their own kids, I feel that life is not worth corruption of one's values. I would certainly kill someone attacking my family with ease, but I'd still feel soiled by the act, I'm certain.

The police have stated that the father was very remorseful after the attack. Apparently the death has cause him great suffering. The police still have not released the father's name.

Originally Posted by Crotalus

The police have stated that the father was very remorseful after the attack. Apparently the death has cause him great suffering. The police still have not released the father's name.

I can readily believe this. It would greatly surprise me if he had planned to kill.
If you can take a human life and be casual about it, something is wrong.

Originally Posted by carlmaloschneider

It's a difficult thing, but I still feel we should love our enemies. It's not their fault there is evil in the world. My nature would be to hurt them very badly, but I'd be the one to have to live with that. I couldn't reconcile that act, as much as the darker side of my nature might relish it. I'd like to think of a higher aim. I'd like to think that love could prevail. All very esoteric and airy fairy, I know...

[EDIT] To add to this...

I very much respect guys' tendencies to want to enact extreme acts of violence on the perpetrator, but, without wanting to sound condescending, we can all over emphasise our physical capabilities at times.

I think maybe at times we need to hold our ideals above any physical thing, even if that physical thing is our own child. I know that's a very extreme ideal, and I don't know if I could do it, but when I hear of parents in Africa being forced to kill their own kids, I feel that life is not worth corruption of one's values. I would certainly kill someone attacking my family with ease, but I'd still feel soiled by the act, I'm certain.

I'm sorry, but this sounds like happy horsesh*t, If I encountered a rabid dog I could still put him down and still love dogs. I don't love my enemies,I feel sorry for them,because as a decent human being for them to be considered an enemy,they have done me or mine a great wrong,and if that IS the fact,then nothing would stop me from exacting my vengeance,especially if it concerned my kids,and I would sleep like a baby..JMHO

Originally Posted by Grizzley1

I'm sorry, but this sounds like happy horsesh*t, If I encountered a rabid dog I could still put him down and still love dogs. I don't love my enemies,I feel sorry for them,because as a decent human being for them to be considered an enemy,they have done me or mine a great wrong,and if that IS the fact,then nothing would stop me from exacting my vengeance,especially if it concerned my kids,and I would sleep like a baby..JMHO

Well, that reply got a laugh out of me and you're probably right. However, maybe to feel 'sorry' for someone shows some amount of love, doesn't it?

Originally Posted by Grizzley1

I'm sorry, but this sounds like happy horsesh*t, If I encountered a rabid dog I could still put him down and still love dogs. I don't love my enemies,I feel sorry for them,because as a decent human being for them to be considered an enemy,they have done me or mine a great wrong,and if that IS the fact,then nothing would stop me from exacting my vengeance,especially if it concerned my kids,and I would sleep like a baby..JMHO

You're too emotionally attached to your enemies. They don't need or desire your sorrow for them. Your vengeance could come at a price to your own safety.
I'm sure the person being discussed had no emotion at all. He was simply defending his daughter & possibly himself & the only way to be sure both were safe was when the attacker was neutralised.