Whats your opinion on automatic weapons?

There is a difference in insulting somebody and pointing out the flaws in their ideology. I would go out on a limb and tell you that only the criminals wish they had guns. I stand firmly by the fact that if you study criminals you can prevent crimes, this is a rare opportunity to study a man who killed numerous people and survived.

THERE IS:

- An ever increasing divide between the rich and the poor in the USA, and poverty is a proven driving force for crime. One of the reasons poverty can lead to crime is because these people tend to have a lower standard of education (amongst others). This is a PROVEN FACT that cannot be argued against, there have been hundreds if not thousands of studies that show this trend.

- Do you really think death is a worse punishment than incarceration? Here in the UK we try to rehabilitate offenders, however cold ... hard ... time can (IMO) be used as a lengthy punishment.

- "readily governable method of distributing firearms to those who will use them properly" I didn't say this ... I said that there was NO readily governable method of distributing firearms to those who will use them properly, hence my reason for thinking they should not be readily available for purchase.

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Originally Posted by Hirlau

Thank you, Jimmy.

StraightRazorHeaven, We don't give up our firearms in American. I respect your belief in no firearms and your freedom to insult forum members across the pond.

I will go out on a limb here StraightRazorHeaven and say that there are probably several of your Countrymen, who wish they not surrendered their firearms.

StraightRazorHeaven, you want to study criminals? Then ride along with officer anywhere in the U.S. during a shift, your next trip to America. OR,,, walk down the streets of L.A, Miami, Atlanta, Detroit, Philly at night, by yourself taking notes on a note pad.

Your verbiage in your post speaks loudly of your idealogy; ever increasing divide between the rich and the poor in the USA, death is no punishment, available for the masses & the most revealing statement of all from you, "readily governable method of distributing firearms to those who will use them properly",,WOW !

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I am 26 Hirlau. Please do not use this against me ;)

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Originally Posted by Hirlau

May I please ask your age?

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Originally Posted by straightrazorheaven

I am 26 Hirlau. Please do not use this against me ;)

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No I won't, it's a good thing. Hopefully I will get to hear your thoughts on this issue in 20 more years. I have a feeling we will see eye to eye on a few things.

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Originally Posted by jaswarb

He could have done more damage with a flammable liquid, a bag of flour and a firecracker, or any of the numerous easily manufactured poisons in powder or gas. People are going to hurt each other. The means is irrelevant. The fact no one in the theater was carrying made them victims. They should distribute weapons to small children and train them in the proper use and safety. Everyone should have the means to defend themselves. If you have every lived in an armed camp you know what polite society and safety is all about.

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Yes, he could have made a bomb, would he have been successful? Far less likely than if he carries a couple of guns with him. The means is not irrelevant. People should have the means to defend themselves, ask yourself this ... how many unarmed (firearms) countries do things like this happen in?

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Originally Posted by pixelfixed

If You Need a semi auto to hunt squirrels,You know sqawt about hunting or firearms,period.
As far as conversions go with semi- autos,Is a cake walk with any semi.

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I don't need a semi auto to hunt squirrels. This spring I've gotten 5 squirrels and three rabbits with a single shot pellet pistol at ranges of 10-25yds (and two with a 4ft stick and my pocket knife; squirrels aren't that smart out in the open with no trees around). I just happen to like my 10/22 and don't own a bolt action 22 that's compatible with anything other than .22 short or long. Doesn't work well with .22LR.

I think that my 26 years have been long and far more traveled than most. I have seen things most people will never see. I am university educated, and come from a poor region of England where gun crime is a reality. Yet I still wish to be unarmed, did you know that most people who carry ANY weapon end up injured by their own weapon when they come to use it?

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Originally Posted by Hirlau

No I won't, it's a good thing. Hopefully I will get to hear your thoughts on this issue in 20 more years. I have a feeling we will see eye to eye on a few things.

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What I'm waiting for in this thread, is for the Texans to weigh in on this topic. It's still a bit early out there; they are still out living it up.

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Originally Posted by straightrazorheaven

Yes, he could have made a bomb, would he have been successful? Far less likely than if he carries a couple of guns with him. The means is not irrelevant. People should have the means to defend themselves, ask yourself this ... how many unarmed (firearms) countries do things like this happen in?

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Greece is a restricted country when it comes to guns. Look what has happened in the last 6 months. Hasn't happened in Switzerland yet!

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Originally Posted by Hirlau

What I'm waiting for in this thread, is for the Texans to weigh in on this topic. It's still a bit early out there; they are still out living it up.

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That will be VERY interesting!!

What happaned in greece? Some riots, and would you believe only 5 deaths over 2 years relating to the riots? If the general public had access to guns I believe it could have looked a little more like what happened in Libya.