Thread: Whats your opinion on automatic weapons?

Originally Posted by straightrazorheaven

We can disagree and both be right, we are intelligent adults after all

After reading through your tirade in post #237, I'm inclined to disagree with 50% of your claim in post #239. The part I do agree with is that Steph (nightblade) is an intelligent adult. I think you have much more growing up to do. I speak as someone who has much the same experience as you listed yourself as having. Frankly, without proof, I just don't believe you.
We, too, may have to agree to disagree. And this is going off the subject so I won't enter into this discussion further.

The facts remain that a deranged man has planned and spent some time buying and building equipment to cause mass destruction. Something that could happen in your country just as easily as America. The fact that you are focussed on the gun element and not the fact that there was a very large bomb setup involved, tells me you have the mentality that your queen and country want you to have. The one that thinks inanimate objects are out to murder people. People murder people! Hell the english have been doing it for centurys. They certainly didn't always use guns and bombs performing these atrocitys. However lets look at something a little closer to our own time to help put it in perspective for you: Derrick Bird, killed 12 injured 11, used a firearm. Location Cumbria, year 2010. Michael Robert Ryan, killed 16, injured 15. Two semi automatic rifles and pistol. Hungerford, 1987. What was the response to this case? Look into public mental health issues? No! Tighten up gun laws.That'll fix it! Did it help? No. Refer to Derrick Bird for the evidence of that. Speaking of which, the response to Birds shooting? BBC postponed showing "Coronation Street" until the next day. That must have had the country in an uproar hey?!

And here I was thinking the UK had strict firearms laws, keeping it's citizens safe from that kind of thing.


Mick

I am quite happy that you pointed out all of the gun crime cases in the UK ... I think the character limit would kick in if you did the same for the countries where civilians are allowed to carry weapons. You don't have to believe me, and I don't really care whether you do or not because my character doesn't change that my facts are correct. In general when a debator starts questioning anothers integrity they know they are wrong. I didn't have a "tirade", I wasn't angry nor criticizing anyone/anything. I merely pointed out the facts.

The BBC don't show Coronation street that is ITV. Derrick Bird was licensed to carry weapons, as was Robert Ryan (Hungerford), note that these are the only examples of such a thing happening in a very long time. Proving my point that when people have access to ballistic weapons ... killing many people is much easier.

I don't appreciate personal slurs in a debate between equals.

Originally Posted by MickR

After reading through your tirade in post #237, I'm inclined to disagree with 50% of your claim in post #239. The part I do agree with is that Steph (nightblade) is an intelligent adult. I think you have much more growing up to do. I speak as someone who has much the same experience as you listed yourself as having. Frankly, without proof, I just don't believe you.
We, too, may have to agree to disagree. And this is going off the subject so I won't enter into this discussion further.

The facts remain that a deranged man has planned and spent some time buying and building equipment to cause mass destruction. Something that could happen in your country just as easily as America. The fact that you are focussed on the gun element and not the fact that there was a very large bomb setup involved, tells me you have the mentality that your queen and country want you to have. The one that thinks inanimate objects are out to murder people. People murder people! Hell the english have been doing it for centurys. They certainly didn't always use guns and bombs performing these atrocitys. However lets look at something a little closer to our own time to help put it in perspective for you: Derrick Bird, killed 12 injured 11, used a firearm. Location Cumbria, year 2010. Michael Robert Ryan, killed 16, injured 15. Two semi automatic rifles and pistol. Hungerford, 1987. What was the response to this case? Look into public mental health issues? No! Tighten up gun laws.That'll fix it! Did it help? No. Refer to Derrick Bird for the evidence of that. Speaking of which, the response to Birds shooting? BBC postponed showing "Coronation Street" until the next day. That must have had the country in an uproar hey?!

And here I was thinking the UK had strict firearms laws, keeping it's citizens safe from that kind of thing.


Mick