Thread: Whats your opinion on automatic weapons?

It actually irritates me that a lot of people can't see that as a human you can't control your emotions enough in any number of given situations to make the correct choice. Men may burst into your home, I don't see how that make it ok to kill them, I don't even see how if they kill you or a loved one that gives you the right to kill. Nobody has that right. It makes me laugh that a lot of you are Christian and can't adhere to the 6th commandment thou shalt not kill. What about forgiveness?

Originally Posted by straightrazorheaven

It actually irritates me that a lot of people can't see that as a human you can't control your emotions enough in any number of given situations to make the correct choice. Men may burst into your home, I don't see how that make it ok to kill them, I don't even see how if they kill you or a loved one that gives you the right to kill. Nobody has that right. It makes me laugh that a lot of you are Christian and can't adhere to the 6th commandment you shalt not kill. What about forgiveness?

While we may all disagree on this subject, I don't think that is a fair post.
There are cultural differences regarding these matters, and questioning someone's Christianity based on this discussion, is in my opinion out of line.

Originally Posted by straightrazorheaven

It actually irritates me that a lot of people can't see that as a human you can't control your emotions enough in any number of given situations to make the correct choice. Men may burst into your home, I don't see how that make it ok to kill them, I don't even see how if they kill you or a loved one that gives you the right to kill. Nobody has that right. It makes me laugh that a lot of you are Christian and can't adhere to the 6th commandment thou shalt not kill. What about forgiveness?

What about forgiveness? I didn't invite the dude into my house and ask him to rape my wife!! Seriously I want to say something derogatory like please join us when you come back to Earth BUT if you are a man of faith... so be it! I believe that given your faith you may chose to die rather than kill if your animal instincts don't kick in.

And for that I respect you. Truly I do. That said ... wait for it... I would rather be judged by God than carried by six.

Keep up the faith brother - I hope you're never put in that situation.

Originally Posted by straightrazorheaven

It actually irritates me that a lot of people can't see that as a human you can't control your emotions enough in any number of given situations to make the correct choice. Men may burst into your home, I don't see how that make it ok to kill them, I don't even see how if they kill you or a loved one that gives you the right to kill. Nobody has that right. It makes me laugh that a lot of you are Christian and can't adhere to the 6th commandment thou shalt not kill. What about forgiveness?

What Birnado said already and BTW the comandment actually translates to "Thou Shalt not Commit Murder" God allows you to protect your family

Originally Posted by straightrazorheaven

It actually irritates me that a lot of people can't see that as a human you can't control your emotions enough in any number of given situations to make the correct choice. Men may burst into your home, I don't see how that make it ok to kill them, I don't even see how if they kill you or a loved one that gives you the right to kill. Nobody has that right. It makes me laugh that a lot of you are Christian and can't adhere to the 6th commandment thou shalt not kill. What about forgiveness?

The 6th commandment was possibly the 6th "law" created in a time when there was no order. all laws and order are broken by many people who do not care about other people's well being or laws. Sadly we live in a world where people will kill and hurt each other. When someone comes to kill or hurt me, my wife, or my two daughters, I don't want to show up to a gun fight with a knife. I will give plenty or warning before i shoot to kill. Like "I have a gun and i will shoot" I think that is more warning than any criminal will give me.

Glen

Your scenario is what makes the USA slightly different than other western industrialized countries at the moment. That is neither good nor bad, it just is. That scenario probably does happen in Canada but chances are there would be no handgun present and available to the home owner. If you legally owned a handgun here you could not legally store it in such a fashion never mind it being loaded to boot. You cannot legally discharge a firearm in any place other than where it is legal to do so and your house ain't one of them. There are probably several more legal reason why you can't which I have forgotten. I imagine it is similar in most other western industrialized countries.

However, legalize aside and being a liberal, if placed in that situation I would likely shoot to kill. Attempting a wounding shot/shots is likely to create a miss so center of mass it is. I place a high value on human life, mine and my family's but not so much a criminals. I guess I am not a good Christian but I think I could live with the consequences.

All that said, I hope I never have to be in such a situation and there are some you can't negotiate your way out of by non violent means.

Bob

Yes, Bob we have "Castle Laws" and "Make My Day Laws" that protect you in many states, to allow you to protect yourself and your loved ones, and they have been slowly adapted to beat many Lawsuits also..

The controversial "Stand Your Ground Law" is one such adaption

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Yes, Bob we have "Castle Laws" and "Make My Day Laws" that protect you in many states, to allow you to protect yourself and your loved ones, and they have been slowly adapted to beat many Lawsuits also..

The controversial "Stand Your Ground Law" is one such adaption

You may have missed my point or I yours. You cannot in most cases compare a scenario which is legal in the US to what in other countries would be an illegal scenario. Here you would not be protecting yourself from lawsuits but the very good possibility of defending yourself against criminal charges brought by the Crown. Basically you have to depend on 911 get stuffed and hope the doughnut dusters can get to you in time from the doughnut shop. You are allowed to defend your "castle" up to a point but that has less and less meaning here today. I am not saying that it is a good thing but again it just is what it is. This is what makes doing direct comparisons very difficult.

Bob

Originally Posted by straightrazorheaven

It actually irritates me that a lot of people can't see that as a human you can't control your emotions enough in any number of given situations to make the correct choice. Men may burst into your home, I don't see how that make it ok to kill them, I don't even see how if they kill you or a loved one that gives you the right to kill. Nobody has that right. It makes me laugh that a lot of you are Christian and can't adhere to the 6th commandment thou shalt not kill. What about forgiveness?

In the original Hebrew it is you shall not commit murder. Not Kill. A lot of folks get that one mixed up though. Murder is premeditated thought pattern to carry out an evil act. Killing is a physical mechanical act. I served 11 years in service to my country. Also have been shooting for 30 years. I have trained with multiple law enforcement agencies in regard to firearms (to include submachine guns and short barreled shotguns). I have also been employed by 2 different law enforcement agencies in my state. Part of my duties whilst (you brits talk clever, I do say) in service to my great FREE country was to carry a handgun on my side all over my base. I trained every 18 months with it. 45 rounds to practice and 45 rounds to qualify. I carried "round chambered, safety off" according to the local regulation that dictated such. Would you consider me a trained professional? A lot of the argument about these weapons centers around not being trained or not having the ability to operate them safely. Do I get a free pass now for having divulged just "some" of my past? I would like to know.