Thread: Heaven, Hell, and Crime

Originally Posted by JackofDiamonds

Excellent post! This has been really fun thinking about. Thank you for posting this.

It is fun isn't it! Because we live in a democracy and vote be it with these idea's on top of mind or not, it's important to think them threw I think. The one that's really killing me is how violent crime dropped so dramatically in America the 90"s. People have all kinds of theory's! Broken window effect, carry laws, etc, etc... what I want to know is if secularism rose in the 90's!!

Maybe that's the answer?

Originally Posted by earcutter

What!!! Sacrilege!! I was always told that it looked like a cookie, lived where cookies live, and can somehow be baked to taste like a cookie....

Then more than likely IT IS A COOKIE!!!!

You are using Aristotelian logic in a post-Galilean world, my friend. Specifically, you are referring to Aristotle's formal cause.

Originally Posted by mapleleafalumnus

You are using Aristotelian logic in a post-Galilean world, my friend. Specifically, you are referring to Aristotle's formal cause.

Come on bro lol... You know I am business! You're using your knowledge to make me look like a chump LOL . That makes you an academic snob bhahahaha!

And that's forcing me to google stuff so that I don't feel like a tool! Dang you MLA!

How's this for a factor: "Percentage of nation that believes in heaven minus percentage that believes in hell".....

I'm still trying to wrap my head around that one, considering all religions preach about consequences (ie - hell or equivalent) if dogmatic beliefs aren't strictly adhered to. In other words, no religious person will believe in heaven but not hell. Me thinks this chart has been skewed to direct the results to fit someone's agenda.

Originally Posted by earcutter

Come on bro lol... You know I am business! You're using your knowledge to make me look like a chump LOL . That makes you an academic snob bhahahaha!

And that's forcing me to google stuff so that I don't feel like a tool! Dang you MLA!

GOTCHA!!!
Proof positive that business majors used to be a dime a dozen but are now free for a hundred!

Originally Posted by Ryan82

How's this for a factor: "Percentage of nation that believes in heaven minus percentage that believes in hell".....

I'm still trying to wrap my head around that one, considering all religions preach about consequences (ie - hell or equivalent) if dogmatic beliefs aren't strictly adhered to. In other words, no religious person will believe in heaven but not hell. Me thinks this chart has been skewed to direct the results to fit someone's agenda.

I'm not that familiar w/Judaism, but my understanding is that they don't believe in Hell per se.
Could someone chime in and clarify this?

Originally Posted by mapleleafalumnus

I'm not that familiar w/Judaism, but my understanding is that they don't believe in Hell per se.
Could someone chime in and clarify this?

I think you are right - not sure. Actually, I think Hell and the concept behind it, really "took off" after Dante's inferno thing. About the 14th century?

*Wait - the idea of hell is in the Old Testament isn't it?

Originally Posted by mapleleafalumnus

I'm not that familiar w/Judaism, but my understanding is that they don't believe in Hell per se.
Could someone chime in and clarify this?

You are correct per se , but there are still afterlife consequences for misdeeds:

Hell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Also, it is my understanding that Hindus don't have a concept of Hell, either, nor Shintoism. Been a loooong time since my REL 200 class as an undergrad. Feel free to correct my statement as I'm always willing to learn, but on this subject as an atheist I really don't care. No offence intended.

Cangooner to the white courtesy phone, please.