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11-05-2012, 11:33 PM #1
It should, but will never happen nationally. Bible thumpers opposing, and too many hands in the cookie jar making profit i.e.: law enforcement, defense attorneys, and the states. Regardless of what they say, the seizures of moneys and goods go to the states, just like the so called non profit traffic tickets...really...REALLY?! It works like the pharmaceutical industry, "There's more profit in treating something than curing it; by treating you ensure repeat customers."
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11-06-2012, 12:38 AM #2
Themproblem is regulating it.. It is the wild west out there with those pharmacies and until they can figure that piece out they probably shouldn't pass it..
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11-06-2012, 12:43 AM #3
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11-06-2012, 07:38 AM #4
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Thanked: 485I would also say why regulate. Legalise it and take away the income from the underworld. Have you ever noticed how the criminal element doesn't spend time growing lettuces in glasshouses or hydroponics? It's because there's no money it in it. Legalise this drug and it's worth nothing.
However, regulation might allow for some control over chemicals etc, just like food crops. However (again) I'd simply grow my own...
Some say education is the key to drug use. I think we've educated the public VERY well about tobacco but people still smoke, including me at times. I'm very much against Meth and other hard drugs, but dope is just dope, like was inferred above, alcohol causes WAY more issues.
I'm not saying dope use doesn't cause issues, but lots of things cause issues, it's I think a lot to do with the amount. I've read about people smoking what seems to me to be MAMMOTH amounts of dope, no wonder they end up a little odd. However, I think overdosing on marijuana is pretty near impossible, and I'm unsure why the 'pool' wouldn't want that person's genes. Just because they smoke dope doesn't make them a worthless member of society.
Let us as a society tackle WHY someone sits at home and does nothing but smoke a whole bag of dope a day and tackle the underlying issue/s, not the symptom. Let us as a society work out why someone sits at home all day and drinks a whole carton of beer and a cask of wine until they vomit blood and tackle why they do that, or all the other self damaging things disenfranchised hopeless people do.
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11-06-2012, 08:03 AM
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Tobacco is legal, yet there is still a large amount of 'chop chop' or tax free tobacco to be had if you know where to get it. That's not so legal, and is simply a case of the legal stuff being taxed like it is.
I see the same issues would arise with legal weed. The illegal stuff would be out there, and cheaper than the legal stuff.
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11-06-2012, 01:21 PM
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Addictions are addictions,be it booze,drugs, cigs or candy.
Are millions of perfectally functioning,intelligent,contributing to society, heroin addicts in this world,The drug in pure form at a known dose has no deleterous effects even long term on the human body.
I choose not to do drugs, tho in my youth I tried most of what was available in the 60s.I chose to stop drinking to excess many yrs ago because I cannot function at my best peak levels with chemicals on board.
I choose not to eat candy and dring softdrinks to excess because I want to maintain a normal wgt.
To me the whole drug issue is all about freedom of choice,is no diff than the abortion issues in this country that women face,it's my body,let me control how it functions.
I think the best thing america could do for those that choose to be addicted is to provide them with pure, clean,known doses of the drug of choice and de-criminalize the entire issue,all the crime would go away overnight.
We all have the choice to use or not use drugs and alcohol,the govt should stop telling us what we can and cannot do.Rant over.
11-06-2012, 03:02 AM
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It's been fun to watch this thread play out and I wondered how long it would take for the rather glaring reality that we are perhaps missing out on a source of income lol. Of course Lynn nailed that on the first response. But there is more to it than just tax revenue.
How much do we spend on the war on drugs? Even if we reduced it by 10% and forget about pot - that's HUGE bucks! So not only are we making money... we are saving money. Never mind how much we would save on imprisoning those who smoke and distribute. Heck - even the savings to the legal system would be HUGE!
Taking all those savings alone would be reason enough if you were to look at it in a purely fiscal way.
Then if we really went all out and followed the constitution back before prohibition bastardized it and took away Americans rights to ingest what they wished like pixel says we would not only save on policing and bl, bla, bla... we would remove a segment of our society all together. The criminal element around drugs. Plus, we would be saving nations like Mexico and Colombia the headache of drug cartels! Win-win...
But then tiddle brings in the 800 pound gorilla lol. The do-good people. And those who have their hands in the cookie jar. The do-good people have a point but one I think is born out of ignorance but then... I don't believe that smoking a joint will turn you into a raging lunatic either.
I don't know what the answer is, but it drives me bonkers that we are as a nation of drug takers, are funding some pretty shady cartels! I would rather those who take drugs fund our own government thank you. Moreover, that my government also pays other governments to combat it on their lands, is an even bigger ARG! It's loose, loose!
I say support our own - stop funding cartels and aid those of ours in need instead of looking outside all the time... YMMY
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11-06-2012, 03:30 AM
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11-06-2012, 03:34 AM
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