Thread: Obama won re election

Originally Posted by gssixgun

My entire point was the by only seeing something through the lens of the media which has it's own bias you are not seeing the truth only anothers rendition of that truth...

Yes, I of course, agree that people have to be informed. I was pointing out that simply living in US does not guarantee it, as we both know all too well. Just like me you've seen plenty of people on the left, on the right, and in the middle of the political spectrum who live in US, watch TV and are completely wrong when it comes to facts.

Even in these threads here we have the record of people who appear to follow politics super closely and yet are consistently wrong on simple and fundamental facts, like specific law being passed or rejected.

I can understand when people lack analytical skills and cannot handle basic logic to work out the implications from the facts, but insisting that lies are facts to me is a fundamental flaw that is perhaps correctable only through a darwin-like process of selection.

I personally like these discussions as long as they involve rational arguments instead of ideological justification because I enjoy learning, and I'm always looking for ways to improve my thinking. If I was interested in what I already know and think I'd be talking in front of a mirror

Originally Posted by gugi

Yes, I of course, agree that people have to be informed. I was pointing out that simply living in US does not guarantee it, as we both know all too well. Just like me you've seen plenty of people on the left, on the right, and in the middle of the political spectrum who live in US, watch TV and are completely wrong when it comes to facts.

Even in these threads here we have the record of people who appear to follow politics super closely and yet are consistently wrong on simple and fundamental facts, like specific law being passed or rejected.

I can understand when people lack analytical skills and cannot handle basic logic to work out the implications from the facts, but insisting that lies are facts to me is a fundamental flaw that is perhaps correctable only through a darwin-like process of selection.

I personally like these discussions as long as they involve rational arguments instead of ideological justification because I enjoy learning, and I'm always looking for ways to improve my thinking. If I was interested in what I already know and think I'd be talking in front of a mirror

It's really simple. Some folk spend all their days listening to one point of view. They are bathed in it 24 hours and have no exposure to anything else. They are literally brainwashed. It's also the old story of tell a big lie and say it over and over again and back it with money and soon folks accept it as gospel and even when presented with facts and the truth they will refuse to even consider changing their opinion.

History is replete with countries whose citizens followed someone and accepted all the lies they told with catastrophic consequences for them and others.

Humans are basically sheep who follow the mob and want to be told what to say and do and think.