Thread: The New Republic of Texas?

Sure, you can pretend to live in an alternate reality, but the facts are just the same. The 'War of Northern Aggression' was fought over the freedom to own property. And yes, it was a Northern Republican who ended slavery, yet the petitions we're talking about are precisely about undoing what Lincoln did (keep the union from splitting apart).
I am sorry, but substance is substance and you can not simply negate it by applying a label that meant something completely different 150 years ago.

If you want to make a valid argument about opportunity, you can simply list the highest ranking public officials from the pre- Civil Rights times. Even better if you get back to before the New Deal which, I hear, ruined everything that was great about this country. If your claims are true, you should have no difficulty whatsoever because back then U.S.A. would've provided a lot more opportunities and a lot less entitlements.

What have you got?

Originally Posted by gugi

Sure, you can pretend to live in an alternate reality, but the facts are just the same. The 'War of Northern Aggression' was fought over the freedom to own property. And yes, it was a Northern Republican who ended slavery, yet the petitions we're talking about are precisely about undoing what Lincoln did (keep the union from splitting apart).
I am sorry, but substance is substance and you can not simply negate it by applying a label that meant something completely different 150 years ago.

If you want to make a valid argument about opportunity, you can simply list the highest ranking public officials from the pre- Civil Rights times. Even better if you get back to before the New Deal which, I hear, ruined everything that was great about this country. If your claims are true, you should have no difficulty whatsoever because back then U.S.A. would've provided a lot more opportunities and a lot less entitlements.

What have you got?

I dont know as if the "New Deal" ruined the country... I thnk the spirit of the concept was meant in good faith.. Unfortunately the greedy lazy and crooked took advantage of it and made the debacle we have today.. What needs to happen is better policing of those policies to make sure people dont rip off the systems.. Unfortunately we have turned a handout into an entitlement in this country.

The only entitlement we have is to die with honor, and that is earned, just like respect. God bless this country.

Originally Posted by Wintchase

What needs to happen is better policing of those policies to make sure people dont rip off the systems.. Unfortunately we have turned a handout into an entitlement in this country.

But that means 'more government', 'less government' would mean repealing the handouts/entitlements altogether.

The problem with entitlements is that everybody who gets them thinks they are entitled to them and somebody else is causing the problem.

I think if the government made bad promises it can no longer keep, then those promises are just as bad whether the other party is teachers, soldiers, retirees, government contractors, big businesses, small businesses etc. and breaking the promises to one group (say teachers) but making other groups 100% whole (say bankers) is anything but fair.

My usual issue is with the insane ideological rhetoric. Instead of arguing of how to improve things in our real world, the argument seems to be how some fantasy land needs saving from a band of horrible thugs.

I wants my check!

Originally Posted by sharptonn

I wants my check!

I want a new phone!

I wants my check AND my smartphone! I am due! I deserve it! I am ME! Therefore I exist! Where is the line?

Now if you make that a nice badger brush or a custom straight; h*ll I'll register as a Democrat.

...sorry Wullie, but a man's gotta have his priorities.

Originally Posted by sharptonn

I wants my check AND my smartphone! I am due! I deserve it! I am ME! Therefore I exist! Where is the line?

Duhhh, it's not a smart phone, it's an Obama phone. No offence, just trying to set the record straight.