Thread: College football coaches' homes

Originally Posted by mainaman

All student athletes are on full scholarships.

Grad students get full tuition but have to teach classes or be on a research assistant ship.

Both of these statements are false with my limited experience.

A good friend of mine was offered some partial scholarships for his sport running track but had to forego them because even without the scholarship it was still cheaper and affordable to go to the school we did with no scholarship. And he still ran for the team.

My daughter is in her second year of Grad School and she had a relative token job for part of her first year but only first year students are eligible for it. She is gaining more debt in the 2 years of grad school than in the first 4 years. I hope half of what she says is true because it will be worth it. But it is far from free.

Originally Posted by 32t

Both of these statements are false with my limited experience.

A good friend of mine was offered some partial scholarships for his sport running track but had to forego them because even without the scholarship it was still cheaper and affordable to go to the school we did with no scholarship. And he still ran for the team.

My daughter is in her second year of Grad School and she had a relative token job for part of her first year but only first year students are eligible for it. She is gaining more debt in the 2 years of grad school than in the first 4 years. I hope half of what she says is true because it will be worth it. But it is far from free.

I got to teach/ get payed to do research all the way trough grad school and only had to pay student fees out of my pocket. As far as I know this is pretty much the norm, from what I have heard from friends that were grad students at other places.
All students that were recruited to join sports at my university and all D1 schools get full scholarships.

Originally Posted by mainaman

I got to teach/ get payed to do research all the way trough grad school and only had to pay student fees out of my pocket. As far as I know this is pretty much the norm, from what I have heard from friends that were grad students at other places.
All students that were recruited to join sports at my university and all D1 schools get full scholarships.

I am happy that this has been your experience. Maybe it is the trade that you chose that allows you that benefit.

I can guarantee that not all athletes at D1 schools get scholarships. Here is an example. A. J. Barker. I don't want to or care enough about the details of the story to argue this point but he recently quit the University of Minnesota football team. They are a Division 1 school. He was their leading receiver and got mad at his coach. He was a walk on player with out a scholarship. Without the scholarship he was able to tell his coach to take a hike. He paid for his chance to contribute to their money making system. I think that they like to recruit players that are poor and without much hope of gaining further education. They then can control these players and make them make decisions that may not be in the players best interest but the athletes hope that it all works out and are willing to take the gamble.

An interesting aside is that a coworker of mine recently got the autograph of an ex pro football [American football] player that was very big in his day. He got it in a obscure little town bar where this guy was in charge of the karaoke machine! I am sure he made some bad decisions in his life but what did his making so much money for others gain him in the long run?

I can assure you that the love of football is not just an American thing. I would be interested to see the education of NCAA football players compared to youth footballers in Europe. Did Vermaelen, Rooney, or Ibrahimovic go to university?

Yes it is a big sport in the US and generates money for the universities. We still have top notch colleges and more foreign students attend university in the US than American students study abroad. To suggest that our universities sacrifice academics for athletics is nonsense and anybody who has attended an American university would know that.

I agree that physical education can be a good part of a general education.

I and my children have attended American Universities. They were not chosen for the abilities of their sports teams. Can you show me that the costs of these teams including the tax dollars I spend to fund their stadiums offset the cost of the majority of the students that attend?

I forgot to mention my wife attended an American University also. Dont tell her!