Neighbor's Pit Bulls

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Originally Posted by Wintchase

anti freeze and Alpo cocktail...

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I have seriously considered this.

I would probably wind up killing my own animals.

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Originally Posted by alb1981

You may want to be careful of spelling out acts that can be prosecuted. They may say you had it out for the dog and planned on killing them. You would then be made to show how you "defended yourself from imminent threat". You may then face charges yourself. Best bet is if they get in your yard, get in the house and call animal control or the cops. That way the deadbeat owners face the charges and will more than likely loose the doge. My only hope is that the dogs are rehabilitated, though more than likely they will just be put down. Shame.

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I edited that post in the time you already answered. If you read it again you'll probably have a better idea about my reasons.

In any case (and please correct me if I am wrong because I am unfamiliar with the scenario): this concerns dogs, in the US, where self defense laws are pretty loose even when concerning humans. would that really be a risk? especially if you already have proof that you informed the owners of the problem?

I agree, you should not put in writing that you'll shoot them. But you can write a formal, documented letter that there is a problem and you feel threatened. should you ever feel threatened by them on your own ground, noone could reasonably claim that you didn't try to prevent it.

Imo, the problem here is the owner, not the dogs. I'll bet anything they're entirely undisciplined and un exercised dogs. The owner's failure to do anything to train and discipline his dogs or fix the problem areas his dogs continue to damage show that he never should be allowed a dog, much less a powerful one. Owners like that make more problems for the breed, when in fact they are the actual problem.

I'd bet if he received a letter from a lawyer about his dogs getting into your property he'd start making some effort.

I'll also say, before you go plotting violence, why not take some time and get to know the dogs and get friendly with them in a more controlled setting. If they see you as a higher ranking pack member with whom they are friendly, there would not be any danger to you, regardless of which yard they're in.

Talk nicely to them, without fear, that's important. Give them treats when you see them. Make friends, it goes a long way.

I believe in being a responsible dog owner and a breed ambassador. Poor dog owners really chap my ass.


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Here is my vicious, fearsome guy btw.

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Originally Posted by maddafinga

Imo, the problem here is the owner, not the dogs. I'll bet anything they're entirely undisciplined and un exercised dogs. The owner's failure to do anything to train and discipline his dogs or fix the problem areas his dogs continue to damage show that he never should be allowed a dog, much less a powerful one. Owners like that make more problems for the breed, when in fact they are the actual problem.

I'd bet if he received a letter from a lawyer about his dogs getting into your property he'd start making some effort.


LOL AMEN! did you copy my OP?? lol ;) Will have to get my babies pics up. The big brutes!

I'll also say, before you go plotting violence, why not take some time and get to know the dogs and get friendly with them in a more controlled setting. If they see you as a higher ranking pack member with whom they are friendly, there would not be any danger to you, regardless of which yard they're in.

Talk nicely to them, without fear, that's important. Give them treats when you see them. Make friends, it goes a long way.

I believe in being a responsible dog owner and a breed ambassador. Poor dog owners really chap my ass.


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Here is my vicious, fearsome guy btw.

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LOL AMEN! did you copy my OP?? lol ;) Will have to get my babies pics up. The big brutes!

I think what needs to be said has been said, but I think that a bad dog is the result of a bad owner. Bad owners generally don't listen to advice or suggestions by neighbours. Get some authority involved i.e lawyer, animal control, police.


Mick

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Originally Posted by maddafinga

Imo, the problem here is the owner, not the dogs. I'll bet anything they're entirely undisciplined and un exercised dogs. The owner's failure to do anything to train and discipline his dogs or fix the problem areas his dogs continue to damage show that he never should be allowed a dog, much less a powerful one. Owners like that make more problems for the breed, when in fact they are the actual problem.

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Nail---Head----- Bam !!!!

Glen did you just Emeril Maddafinga?

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Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

How about a 12 gauge loaded with rock salt ? Even a 410. Might discourage further adventures under the fence. Did you report the cats being killed to the police ..... ASPCA ? Some agency ought to be responsible to do something under the circumstances.

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Got to be careful of injuring someone's critter. For some reason that will bring you more trouble than just killing it. I would ask the local sheriff what to do. That is who will ultimately be called in the end no matter what happens. I know what mine would say. " If you feel you life or the life of your loved ones is is danger, you may act with extreme prejudice. This also goes for your property in my old county. If you can't stomach killing them set traps and call the animal control. They can't really do anything without proof. If it's in your yard that's proof enough. Hope you get to live in peace soon. There are ways, just be smart about it and do what you can do.

I did mean LIVE traps by the way !!! You can rent them. My first call would be the sheriff still, ask him what he would do.

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Originally Posted by Bruno

I edited that post in the time you already answered. If you read it again you'll probably have a better idea about my reasons.

In any case (and please correct me if I am wrong because I am unfamiliar with the scenario): this concerns dogs, in the US, where self defense laws are pretty loose even when concerning humans. would that really be a risk? especially if you already have proof that you informed the owners of the problem?

I agree, you should not put in writing that you'll shoot them. But you can write a formal, documented letter that there is a problem and you feel threatened. should you ever feel threatened by them on your own ground, noone could reasonably claim that you didn't try to prevent it.

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if you knowingly destroy an animal that is owned by your neighbors you would have to have more reason than it being in your yard barking. if it's a stray acting rabid no worries, but any way you look at it no good can come. Oh and don't forget all the animal rights activists that would make your life hell once it broke the news. Easier by far to just call authorities.

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Originally Posted by commiecat

Puppies dig so it might be because they're young and will get over it. Confront the neighbor. If it continues then call Animal Control -- assuming you're in Irving, then here is their website.

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We have tried talking to the neighbor, several times.

City of Ft. Worth just arrested someone for not keeping their animals in their own yard. Irving's animal control won't even come out unless we have the animal trapped. I don't understand. I even have video of the dogs going under the fence.