Thread: Twinkies

Originally Posted by Cangooner

Never mind them - have a bash at Giambattista Vico. If you can figure out his 'New Science', please send me the summary. I had it on a tray in a cafeteria once and a philosophy prof looked at it and said "Jesus! Who's making you read *that*?"

That's not a good sign...

Funny, I always figured you for a Richelieu fan...

Originally Posted by mapleleafalumnus

Machiavelli was easy.

For those who have not done so before, set aside The Prince. Then read Machiavelli's other works (letters, Discourses on Livi, Florentine Histories for example), and *then* read The Prince. And just consider the possibility that The Prince was written as a satirical piece never intended for widespread publication, but rather for the entertainment of his decidedly non-"Machiavellian" friends.

It gives the thing an entirely new meaning.

Originally Posted by Cangooner

Lots of anti-union folks talk about rights. What about a worker's right to withdraw his or her labour?

That's a right every worker should have. Along with the right to not withdraw their labor at the wishes of the majority, and the right to bargain wage increases on their own behalf.

Originally Posted by mapleleafalumnus

Funny, I always figured you for a Richelieu fan...

No, no, that's Richler. Mordechai was brilliant!

And to steal a phrase from Arlo: Twinkies. You remember twinkies? This is a thread about twinkies...

Kris, I'll raise you a tome of Arnold Toynbee's A Study of History. Never before or since has a man used so many words to convey so little.

Originally Posted by Cangooner

No, no, that's Richler. Mordechai was brilliant!

And to steal a phrase from Arlo: Twinkies. You remember twinkies? This is a thread about twinkies...

Originally Posted by mapleleafalumnus

Kris, I'll raise you a tome of Arnold Toynbee's A Study of History. Never before or since has a man used so many words to convey so little.

Ok you academic snobs!! I am impressed! But if you are that good! Relate it to Twinkies!

Originally Posted by HNSB

That's a right every worker should have. Along with the right to not withdraw their labor at the wishes of the majority, and the right to bargain wage increases on their own behalf.

These guys are discussing that very topic in this get together here ..... circa 1941

Or was it unions... wages? Or you know...

Originally Posted by HNSB

That's a right every worker should have. Along with the right to not withdraw their labor at the wishes of the majority, and the right to bargain wage increases on their own behalf.

That is no problem in a union shop. Just go company and you can withdraw your labour and bargain your own wages without being held ransom by the wishes of the majority. Everyone has that choice. Each choice has strings attached, different strings but strings all the same. There ain't no free lunch.

Bob

Originally Posted by Cangooner

And just consider the possibility that The Prince was written as a satirical piece never intended for widespread publication, but rather for the entertainment of his decidedly non-"Machiavellian" friends.

I don't remember learning this part about it in college. How do you know this?