Thread: Assault weopen carnage agian?

Originally Posted by earcutter

It's kind of weird because I am VERY pro-gun. Moreover, I am with Glen - it's an American's right, not a privilege.

It's scale that I kind of have a problem with. Maybe efficiency would be a better term.

If you look at stats it's something between 2 to 3 shots when there is an altercation. Anyone who has shot, also knows that after that, hiding or running is probably a better solution lol! But I don't want to get too bogged down with what-if scenario's that do nothing but foster a bunch of Rambo want to be's day dreams of zombie... Moreover, I don't buy into needing these type of weapons to keep the government in order. In today's America, only a military force can do that.

I think 99% of the American public would be well served with a six gun, a shotgun, and a good bolt action/lever-gun. I know I would be fine with that - though I love my semi's and would miss them.

I don't understand the need for weapons designed to kill on mass, or used to provide a wall of lead that is 90% inefficient in the public forum. But that's just me and take that for what it is... a dude who's lived in one of the most violent society's in the western hemisphere - Kingston Jamaica.

What a dump!! I hope America never becomes like that!

Just how would you classify the individuals in Afghanistan that have managed defeat one super power and hold off another for thirty or forty years?

The facts are out, the guy used two pistols. The so called assault rifle was left in his murdered mom's stolen car. I'm sure that will continue to be irrelevant to the upcoming assault on our rights.

I'm done with this thread. I've got a freshly honed by MAGPIE, Challenge razor that needs a test drive and the weather outside is conducive to doing something besides wasting my energy with this.

Thanks to everyone for keeping it civil.

I shall continue to be a bitter clinger.

Originally Posted by Wullie

Just how would you classify the individuals in Afghanistan that have managed defeat one super power and hold off another for thirty or forty years?

American support & stinger missiles.

The facts are out, the guy used two pistols. The so called assault rifle was left in his murdered mom's stolen car. I'm sure that will continue to be irrelevant to the upcoming assault on our rights.

Two "semi auto" pistols - I have owned both. Heck, the Glock I owned had a 30 round clip! I could put tons of lead down in seconds with those two pistols.

I'm done with this thread. I've got a freshly honed by MAGPIE, Challenge razor that needs a test drive and the weather outside is conducive to doing something besides wasting my energy with this.



Thanks to everyone for keeping it civil.

I shall continue to be a bitter clinger.

LOL! I am sorry Wullie - I don't think you should ever stop feeling as you do - seriously! It's your right and I respect how you feel towards it. I am merely pointing out another alternative - but yeah, it's a slippery slope and in today's climate of all or nothing... It becomes increasingly hard to have discussions about such things. I find that heart breaking.

I just want to point out another fact of sorts that many may not have thought through.

The NRA, where I live anyway, has done a fantastic job of ensuring its numbers. If you want to shoot at a range here, you have to enroll in the NRA - why? Because they are the only one's who are willing to provide decent insurance rates to the ranges I visit.

Hence, the NRA are awesome BUT, don't necessarily speak to what all are feeling.

Just a thought.

Here is another simple solution that hardly ever gets air play, that I as a RKBA supporter would have Zero issues with..

1. Any Gun not in possesion of the owner must be locked up ie: some sort of Safe/Cabinet would be a law (these must be made in the US )
2. A "Gun Owner" license, much the same as a drivers license in fact might just be a Stamp on the drivers license like a MC stamp. that is a MINOR cost (monies go to School security) that says I can own a gun legally ie: answer all the BATF form questions... this must be re-newed periodically much like a driver's license.. This would also tie in with Health Care records to stop the "Mental Disorder" problems that seems to be a bigger issue then the weapons right now.
3. You must have had some sort of Firearm safety course, we already do this for hunters (in most states) so it is no big deal.

Simple easy solutions to many problems

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Here is another simple solution that hardly ever gets air play, that I as a RKBA supporter would have Zero issues with..

1. Any Gun not in possesion of the owner must be locked up ie: some sort of Safe/Cabinet would be a law (these must be made in the US )
2. A "Gun Owner" license, much the same as a drivers license in fact might just be a Stamp on the drivers license like a MC stamp. that is a MINOR cost (monies go to School security) that says I can own a gun legally ie: answer all the BATF form questions... this must be re-newed periodically much like a driver's license.. This would also tie in with Health Care records to stop the "Mental Disorder" problems that seems to be a bigger issue then the weapons right now.
3. You must have had some sort of Firearm safety course, we already do this for hunters (in most states) so it is no big deal.

Simple easy solutions to many problems

Yea, that is all part of our current gun laws but it does not stop what happens here in major centers. As a gun owner I too don't mind putting up with that but in the end there will always be criminal use of guns. Same reason as bans won't work either. The same knuckleheads here don't understand that either. We have a sick society.

Bob

Originally Posted by BobH

We have a sick society.

Bob

Yeah and there is the true problem, but I think I would have voiced it as "We have too many Sickos in our Society"

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Yeah and there is the true problem, but I think I would have voiced it as "We have too many Sickos in our Society"

No, I'll stick with the "we have a sick society". The sickos come from somewhere and if we don't breed them directly we allow the circumstances to exist which allow these sickos to germinate into a problem. It is usually a decade or two, sometimes more, between birth and the ultimate tragedy.

Bob

Good point Bob

Dudes, I'm still trying to figure out what the hell a "weopen" is??????????


But don't touch my AR's or my AK's...........and please hurry the "f"-up with the 3 stamps that I've been waiting on since the dawn of time. I want my suppressors!

I have been affected by gun in the past and present at the same time, means something never go away, never change or can be forgotten.

I have two questions to both of the sides:

1. "Would you give up your "right" to save this childrens lifes"?
2. "If you know your rights nd believe and you stand by them do you think you would change your mind if you will be ask to go to each of this families family and annouce death of your loveded child, parent, father... ?. Will this bring you mor numbnes or pain?"

Difficult questions, but let`s just think about it. I do not expect answers.

Originally Posted by proximus26

Difficult questions, but let`s just think about it.

Not difficult at all, not one bit...

No, I would not give up my rights, nor would I ever need to explain another "person's" actions, why would I...
(person is in quotes as anybody that would shoot innocent children/people is highly questionable as to belonging to the human race)

Nor do I believe that your questions have any bearing on the topic...