Potential Ban/Brady Bill part deux?

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Originally Posted by shooter74743

I can't imagine the kind of stuff like McVeigh used in the Oklahoma CIty tragedy.

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About 6000 lbs of ANFO. Easy to get the stuff, easy to build.

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Originally Posted by nun2sharp

A well regulated(disciplined) militia(army of the people), being necessary to a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

The purpose is clearly defined, in order for the people to live freely they must be armed. It is neither mum nor ambiguous.

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I see the Second as the Militia has the right to the arms. But that is the argument that has raged for years. No place in the Constitution does it indicate that the Supreme Court has the power of Judicial Review. If everything in the Constitution, Bill of Rights and Declaration of Independence were taken literally, we would live in a different place.

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Originally Posted by nun2sharp

From what I heard of the show in KC, dealers were damn near doubling their prices on some guns and did double the prices on ammo. One ammo dealer was asking a thousand dollars for a thousand rounds of .223

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True Americans.....


What really, really bothers me is that NO ONE knew Christine was a Plymouth....NOT A CHEVELLE.......LOL

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Originally Posted by Mvcrash

About 6000 lbs of ANFO. Easy to get the stuff, easy to build.

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Tried buying any 32-0-0 fertilizer lately? They want your life history.

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Originally Posted by Mvcrash

I see the Second as the Militia has the right to the arms. But that is the argument that has raged for years. No place in the Constitution does it indicate that the Supreme Court has the power of Judicial Review. If everything in the Constitution, Bill of Rights and Declaration of Independence were taken literally, we would live in a different place.

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Would that be an improvement?

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"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms..disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one." - Thomas Jefferson quoting Cesare Beccaria, Criminologist in 1764. That was 230 years ago. -Thomas Jefferson



"The constitutions of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves;
that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed; that they are entitled to freedom of person, freedom of religion, freedom of property and freedom
of the press." Thomas Jefferson



"The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." -Thomas Jefferson



The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.-Thomas Jefferson

The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first.-Thomas Jefferson

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Originally Posted by Mvcrash

True Americans.....

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Capitalists. LOL

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Originally Posted by Mvcrash

What really, really bothers me is that NO ONE knew Christine was a Plymouth....NOT A CHEVELLE.......LOL

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A '58 if I recall correctly. :p

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Originally Posted by Sailor

Geographically Poland is middle European, although during the times of the iron curtain (only) it was considered politically eastern. During WW2 it still was still in the middle, divided by Soviet and Germany.

Anyways, beautiful and interesting country with a lot to see. Always nice to visit. Only 1 hr flight from here.

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Don't forget their wonderful food !:)

if they had NOT fought, they all would have been killed anyway. I for one, would rather die fighting with nothing more than a shovel in my hand against a machine gun, then to simply allow them to have me use the shovel to dig my own grave.

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Originally Posted by Magpie

if they had NOT fought, they all would have been killed anyway. I for one, would rather die fighting with nothing more than a shovel in my hand against a machine gun, then to simply allow them to have me use the shovel to dig my own grave.

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It's another thing to be brave and fight the ones that are doing you wrong than seeing 10 or more innocent of your side to get raped, tortured or dragged against a wall and shot. For the actions you made.
that is how civil uprising go. 'people' against tyrannic government, elected by a vote, lol. When civilians decide to take guns, they are capable of doing more horrific actions than disciplined army ever could.

That is what happened in our civil war and that is what happened in Warsaw also.
It is easy to speak for yourself, but in civil war where you had to fight against your wife/child/parents then the glory or bravery or even victory would be something not to consider.

Sent my note to the BATF. Crap, I'm probably back on their list now but, what the heck.

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Originally Posted by 10Pups

Sent my note to the BATF. Crap, I'm probably back on their list now but, what the heck.

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:)
If you're anything like me, I'm all over their list(s).
Oh well. Being it! Lol

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Originally Posted by Wullie

Would that be an improvement?

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I'm not certain to be honest.

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Originally Posted by Wullie

A '58 if I recall correctly. :p

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I think you are right.

Here is a link to my nearby big city news paper about guns and parts sales.

Gun sales surge; 3 1/2 years of ammunition magazines sold in 72 hours - latimes.com

for years i always said that ammo restrictions would be coming , cause they will never stop the guns .. looks like it is starting to happen .. dint they try to issue a permit in I.L. to buy ammo ? and ur id would be linked to the box of ammo that both shell and bullet would have a matching number and all reloads would have to be spent by a certain year ?? i thought i had heard this a couple years ago !!

just wait till the dollar is gone and all your purchases are linked to your debit card and you are limited to what you can buy ...as crazy as it seems these things can happen ..lol