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12-27-2014, 06:27 PM #1Senior Member
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Puma 222 5/8 Silber
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Beautiful razor in excellent condition. Unfortunately doesn’t belong to me. Restored for a friend of mine. I own Puma 222 Silber razor but this one is different. The blade is engraved and it was made of Pumaster Steel. I have never find any information about what Pumaster Steel actually is but for sure it was Puma’s premium stuff. Some say it was Sheffield steel, who knows?
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12-27-2014, 06:31 PM #2Senior Member
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Beautiful restore of a beautiful razor.
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12-27-2014, 07:16 PM #3Senior Member
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I have some earlier Pumas with Kayser-Ellison Silver steel, some with Pumamaster. The old Puma fixed blade and folding knives were Pumamaster as far back as I've seen and then switched to 'Super Keen Stainless Steel.' I always preferred the Pumamaster.
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Very interesting. So far i have seen Pumas made of Pumaster steel (both carbon and stainless) and best Puma-Steel. I wonder is that really means something or is it just marketing.
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12-27-2014, 07:59 PM #5Senior Member
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Good question. At one time Kayser-Ellison seems to have been the 'hot' commodity for Solingen razors. I've seen them in Puma, Bartmann, Carbo-Magnetic, Craftsman Sta-Sharp and others from that era. I'm thinking it was pre WWII but it could have been afterwards, Kayser-Ellison was around into the '60s or later AFAIK. There was a period, after the Germans had perfected hollow grinding, when you would see razors stamped, and or advertised, as Sheffield Steel, Ground in Solingen.
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As recent as a few years ago, Theirs-Issard's razors were marked as Sheffield Silver Steel and they recently changed to their C-135 steel with great fanfare. Some Solingen razors from the post war period were marked Bohler Steel. So I'm thinking that engineers were always trying to push the envelope and develop new and improved materials. It is still happening today.
Having shaved with examples of all of the above, I cannot tell the difference between any of them where the razor meets the whiskers. All good.Be careful how you treat people on your way up, you may meet them again on your way back down.
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12-27-2014, 08:25 PM #6Senior Member
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I think you're right. It is like trying to guess country of origin by just shaving, without seeing actual razorHaving shaved with examples of all of the above, I cannot tell the difference between any of them where the razor meets the whiskers. All good.
Maciek.
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