Thread: 8/8 full hollow Damascus Razor

That is gorgeous work my friend love the contrasts and definition

Originally Posted by JDM61

Very nice, Gabor. I am not always a fan of sapwood in ironwood, but you used it in a very eye pleasing way with these scales. At first glance, it almost looked like you had done an inlay. I know that 1.2442 is 115W8 because I have some of it on hand and have used it with 15N20 to make some low layer count damascus in the past. What is the more common name for the 1.3505? The comparison charts that I found seem to look like something similar to 52100 but with a maximum of .3% nickel which I would think would not be enough to get that bright silver color that you get form 15N20 or L6.

You are right, 1.3505 is similar to 52100. The contrast between this steel and 1.2442 is very low. This steels are the black and the dark grey steels on this razor. We call it widow damascus. For that reason we put a very little of 15Ni20 in this steel. That are the few small silver lines on this razor. It was a test, how it comes out. But it is only so less of this steel in the razor, that it is not important for the characteristics of the steel. So I forgott to tell it. Sorry.

Gabor very nice work and worth the nerves lost in my opinion !

It seems to me that the combination of those two steels would give you very high fine edge stability like they do when used by themselves. Razor people sure love that. My question is does the tungsten in the 115W8 give you more abrasion resistance than razor people might like due to potential difficulty on honing? We are talking pretty significant amounts of carbide formers , chromium and tungsten, in that fairly hyperuetectoid composite.

Originally Posted by Buddel

You are right, 1.3505 is similar to 52100. The contrast between this steel and 1.2442 is very low. This steels are the black and the dark grey steels on this razor. We call it widow damascus. For that reason we put a very little of 15Ni20 in this steel. That are the few small silver lines on this razor. It was a test, how it comes out. But it is only so less of this steel in the razor, that it is not important for the characteristics of the steel. So I forgott to tell it. Sorry.

That's Amazing! From the selection of materials, to the design! Covered tang, scale design, but especially the full hollow "bellied" grind.....that's something that only the Masters of the Art accomplish!!

Congrats!!!....and "Well Done"!!

Howard

That razor is stunning!

Originally Posted by JDM61

It seems to me that the combination of those two steels would give you very high fine edge stability like they do when used by themselves. Razor people sure love that. My question is does the tungsten in the 115W8 give you more abrasion resistance than razor people might like due to potential difficulty on honing? We are talking pretty significant amounts of carbide formers , chromium and tungsten, in that fairly hyperuetectoid composite.

In my experience with this steel on razors I dont noticed a tendency to difficult honing. On the other point, this razors come very rarly back for honing. They hold the edge significant longer than razors from 1.2210 or white paper steel. I also using this combination for some kitchen knifes and together with the 1.2442 as a mono steel these knifes are the best edge holding knifes I know.

Not surprising. I have said in the past that 1.2442 on paper resembles Hitachi Blue #2 but with a slightly different carbon content and perhaps even more tungsten. I have some 1.2442 left and I also have a LOT of Cru Forge V which has .75 vanadium and .50 chrome. Some people, myself included , complain about the Cru Forge being hard to hand finish above 60Rc because of the vanadium, but I haven't really heard complaints about it being all that difficult to hone. I plan to do my own little comparison between those two in addition to O1 and W2 once I make a few( translated anywhere from 10 to 40) RSO's out of the cheaper 1084 to get the hang of the deep hollow grinds.. I also still have that lower layer count chunk of damascus made from 1.2442 and 15N20.

Originally Posted by Buddel

In my experience with this steel on razors I dont noticed a tendency to difficult honing. On the other point, this razors come very rarly back for honing. They hold the edge significant longer than razors from 1.2210 or white paper steel. I also using this combination for some kitchen knifes and together with the 1.2442 as a mono steel these knifes are the best edge holding knifes I know.

Whoever welded that billet together deserves congratulations for a healthy combination of skill and luck and the beauty of the result. Good job.

Amazing, amazing! Absolutely beautiful work.