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    I believe this razor dates to the 1830's. Double notches cut into the tang I don't see very often. Fancy spine sort of like an arris but more rounded with a small flat on the top. The 13/16 near wedge blade is done in a glazed finish. The original scales were restored. A small crack at the wedge end was repaired and the scales re-dyed black with a soft satin finish. I was also able to save the original steel pivot pin collars. The poured lay metal or lead endcap was pinned to the scales and not removed. A small brass pin tapering from .045 to .035 passed through the wedge end escutcheons holding the scales together. There has been a bit of shrinkage of the horn around the end cap over the last 185 years or so.
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    The swords are commonly referred to as the fencing foils, as that is what they are. I have two with the double thumb notches, but have never seen a wedge like that on a Greaves razor. Very cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by holli4pirating View Post
    The swords are commonly referred to as the fencing foils, as that is what they are. I have two with the double thumb notches, but have never seen a wedge like that on a Greaves razor. Very cool.
    Look up the definition of small sword.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karlej View Post
    Look up the definition of small sword.
    Is there something in particular I should be looking for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by holli4pirating View Post
    Is there something in particular I should be looking for?
    I chose the word small sword purposefully is all.
    Fencing foils did not exist when that razor was made. The small sword however did. The small sword or smallsword (also court sword, Gaelic: claidheamh beag or claybeg, French: épée de cour or dress sword) is a light one-handed sword designed for thrusting which evolved out of the longer and heavier rapier of the late Renaissance. The height of the small sword's popularity was between mid 17th and late 18th century. Militarily, small swords continued to be used as a standard sidearm for infantry officers. In some branches with strong traditions, this practice continues to the modern day, albeit for ceremonial and formal dress only. The carrying of swords by officers in combat conditions was frequent in World War I and still saw some practice in World War II. The 1913 U.S. Army Manual of Bayonet Drill[1] includes instructions for how to defend with a smallsword. Fencing as an organized sport did not begin until the end of the 19th century. The sport’s first Olympic appearance was at the 1896 Games in Athens, Greece.

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    Cool razor and scales. Nice job, and a great find.
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    I am eagerly awaiting this restoration from Karl. I am looking forward to the "shotgun" Greaves makers mark stamp. LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by karlej View Post
    I chose the word small sword purposefully is all.
    Fencing foils did not exist when that razor was made.
    I'm going off Wikipedia, which says the foil dates to the 16th century, and was used in France as a training weapon in the 18th century. Is that information incorrect?
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    Those "small swords" appear to be very similar to the dress swords worn in the RCN by officers when the dress of the day is medals and swords. They can't be mistaken for a fencing foil.

    I remember having to learn cutlass drill because some wanker decided that the guard petty officer would carry a cutlass instead of a rifle for ceremonial divisions. Yes, traditions die hard.

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