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04-06-2020, 04:29 PM #1
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This is what I know as a frameback grind. A frame with a thin flat blade, not hollow ground.
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04-06-2020, 04:40 PM #2
Interesting! I have never seen a frameback razor with the screws on the spine like that. Very nicely done.
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04-06-2020, 05:01 PM #3
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Thanked: 631If you are referring to this Gilchrist there are no screws. Blade is not removable.
Razors from France and Switzerland have removable blades
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04-06-2020, 07:07 PM #4
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Thanked: 9For me, the frameback is more associated with a removable blade, because then it makes sense, from the point of view of technology and economics. It would be possible to recall the Japanese with the frameback geometry, but at the same time made from a single piece of metal, such razors come across. I could be wrong, but, unfortunately, moke a poor knowledge of English will not allow us to argue
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04-06-2020, 07:14 PM #5
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Thanked: 631It's not a matter of arguing or ones command of English.
Go on strazors.com and click on construction tab at top. This will give chart showing parts of razor, tang differences and dates, point shapes and a chart of grinds. On right of chart are a frameback and faux frameback.
How is your blade attached to the frame. On vintage blade was fastened in groove in frame.
I think it is a beautiful razor and you did a fantastic job. Wish I had your talent.
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04-06-2020, 07:20 PM #6
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Thanked: 4822I think your variant of the vintage frameback, makes for a more modern and delightful frameback.
I like it.It's not what you know, it's who you take fishing!
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04-06-2020, 08:12 PM #7
It's a beautiful razor in any language, no matter what it's called.
There are many roads to sharp.
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04-07-2020, 02:26 PM #8
Hey that's a pretty cool razor. I like it. But what I have always thought of as a frameback is a seperately forged spineless blade held permanently in a pressed steel spine and tang unit. I know, others use the term differently, but to be technical about it, I think @bouschie gets the cigar. Still you have a very unique razor with an intriguing design. Could you post a pic of the screws or blade holding mechanism?
The classic frameback was born out of economy, I believe. Less cutlery grade steel was needed. Less skilled forging and grinding. I could be wrong but I bet they were cheaper to manufacture, in their day.
So your razor... how does it hone, and shave? Can you get a replacement blade?
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04-07-2020, 06:52 PM #9
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Thanked: 9generally yes, but no Since, from my point of view, the Shavette has become the final product of the evolution of the freimback, the main characteristic is the dismantling, and not the profile. And in our area, I mean the majority of Russian-speaking sites about razors, what you have in the photo is a false frameback, that is, a frameback, but not collapsible. So the determination can also be influenced by the place of residence of the one who determines. On the other hand, since I am visiting you, I have to agree with your point of view
The blade is attached with four M2 screws
A spare blade can of course, but since there is a concavity between 1/2 and 1/4 does not make much sense in it, this is not a full hollow, it’s difficult to break.
hone, and shave - easy and pleasant, I am most interested in razor production for steel and their heat treatment, because I went through a lot and clean carbon, the example of Japanese Tamahagane, with carbon about 0.7-0.8 most suitable for razors ... the truth is very rustLast edited by arma; 04-07-2020 at 07:17 PM.
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04-07-2020, 06:55 PM #10
Call it whatever you want, it's a great looking razor. Good job and way to think outside the box.
Having Fun Shaving