I love 'em! The plastic ones that come with most shirts are okay if you aren't wearing a tie IMO. For wearing a tie or a more formal looking collar point, I prefer these:

https://www.stayclip.com/order.php

It just feels nice to put a set of these in too!


I only wear a tie bar when I am wearing a vintage dress shirt I have that has small holes in the collar for attaching the bar. The bar does "present" the tie knot, but it's main purpose is to keep the collar down. The type of bar that hangs onto the top button serves no purpose for me as I tie a full windsor or half windsor when I wear a tie and find that these knots need no help.


-Rob