Thread: Guns Guns and MORE Guns

Originally Posted by BloodOrange

So—out from under the ashes of Puritan oppression, Roger Williams influenced both Jefferson and Madison, setting the framework from which the 1st Amendments' separation of church and state came to be.

Progression is not all for naught—especially the slow—for the greater good for all mankind—even keeled progression.

Just a heads up,,, since you are new to the forum,,, when it comes to the gun threads,,, we only "Show & Tell", discuss methods of concealed carry, types of holsters etc.

Any discussion of 1st Amendment, 2nd Amendments issues are prohibited in gun threads,,, we only have a few gun threads here & want to keep them.

Not my rules,,, just the way it is.

Thank you,,,,,,,,,,

Originally Posted by Hirlau

Just a heads up,,, since you are new to the forum,,, when it comes to the gun threads,,, we only "Show & Tell", discuss methods of concealed carry, types of holsters etc.

Any discussion of 1st Amendment, 2nd Amendments issues are prohibited in gun threads,,, we only have a few gun threads here & want to keep them.

Not my rules,,, just the way it is.

Thank you,,,,,,,,,,

As Hirlau said, please stay ON TOPIC guys. Politics, religion, geography, 2nd amendment stuff is not for this thread. SHOW US YER GUNS !

Originally Posted by Hirlau

Just a heads up,,, since you are new to the forum,,, when it comes to the gun threads,,, we only "Show & Tell", discuss methods of concealed carry, types of holsters etc.

Any discussion of 1st Amendment, 2nd Amendments issues are prohibited in gun threads,,, we only have a few gun threads here & want to keep them.

Not my rules,,, just the way it is.

Thank you,,,,,,,,,,

No problem.

Thank you ,,,,,

Just curious. I have carried out side the pants and shoulder rigs. I've never carried inside the pants. What would be a comfortable leather holster for a Sig P229 or the 225 or the new 320 sig. i believe they all use the same outside the pants and shoulder rig. Since the price of leather now days has gone kind of high i wouldn't want to buy to try and put in the storage bin. What do others who have used the inside models think.

Originally Posted by rhensley

Just curious. I have carried out side the pants and shoulder rigs. I've never carried inside the pants. What would be a comfortable leather holster for a Sig P229 or the 225 or the new 320 sig. i believe they all use the same outside the pants and shoulder rig. Since the price of leather now days has gone kind of high i wouldn't want to buy to try and put in the storage bin. What do others who have used the inside models think.

I've tried a number of IWB holsters. At first I liked the kind that clip on over the belt, and they are convenient, but the clip will gradually chew up your shirt tail when you sit in a car seat. It will be perforated with little holes.

The best made, most comfortable IWB I've found, and the one I swear by now, is the Milt Sparks Versa Max 2. I've also got their Summer Special, which looks like it would be even better for its simplicity, but the VM2 is the one that cannot be beat. It ain't cheap, but it will last a lifetime, and is the most comfortable and efficient of all I've tried.

Get the horse hide. Tougher, slicker for an easier draw, and moisture resistant.

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

I've tried a number of IWB holsters. At first I liked the kind that clip on over the belt, and they are convenient, but the clip will gradually chew up your shirt tail when you sit in a car seat. It will be perforated with little holes.

The best made, most comfortable IWB I've found, and the one I swear by now, is the Milt Sparks Versa Max 2. I've also got their Summer Special, which looks like it would be even better for its simplicity, but the VM2 is the one that cannot be beat. It ain't cheap, but it will last a lifetime, and is the most comfortable and efficient of all I've tried.

Get the horse hide. Tougher, slicker for an easier draw, and moisture resistant.

Late reply as I have not checked this thread for a while. I have carried for 38 years now and almost always IWB. Bought a Milt Sparks VMII a couple years ago for a 4" 1911 and it is by far the best IWB holster I ever had, ended up with three for 1911's, 3,4 & 5". Ended up selling the 3" to a friend when I sold him my 3" Raptor, that I replaced with a Wilson Stealth but the VMII in horsehide can't be beat, great holsters and the only holster that I know of that can be sold used for about the same price and in some cases more than a new one. You can expect about a two month wait for a new one when ordering.

Two of my babies...



I also have a Ruger P90 blued and a Ruger 22/45 Target with the 5.5" barrel. Long guns are a Winchester 1300 12g with 28" and 18" barrels and an early 80's vintage Marlin Model 60 (pre-Freedom Group era) with the full 22" barrel.

Wow,,, hard to say, as I truly believe there is no comfortable in the pants holster, as I have carried that way all my adult life.
But,,,,,,,,
sometimes we need to or want to carry in the pants. I would say that you first obtain a solid well built "belt" , as this is key in stability. A cheap belt can make carrying a weapon a pain. A form fitting(to the particular handgun) holster helps. The method of how the holster attaches matters too,,, clips,,, snaps/straps or simple slats in the holster material, all have their advantages or disadvantages.
How much weapon retention plays a part in the choice also.
If at all possible, visit a gun shop that has choices & test a few holsters out.

Originally Posted by rhensley

Just curious. I have carried out side the pants and shoulder rigs. I've never carried inside the pants. What would be a comfortable leather holster for a Sig P229 or the 225 or the new 320 sig. i believe they all use the same outside the pants and shoulder rig. Since the price of leather now days has gone kind of high i wouldn't want to buy to try and put in the storage bin. What do others who have used the inside models think.

Look at milt sparks vm2. I had picked up three or four iwb's and a friend let me try one with a full size 1911. I will automatically get one if getting a new gun that I will carry that way.

Didn't see jimmy's post before i posted but I second it....