Thread: Guns Guns and MORE Guns

Originally Posted by EMC45

No gas check. My normal load is 4.5gr Bullseye. 5.1gr. is Max for this bullet. 4.5gr is my "The Load" load for the .45. They shoot real well from 4.5 - 5gr.

Shoot this load from the 1911 and the G36 Glock....Next thing you guys are gonna tell me is you can't shoot cast bullets in Glocks...

The 1911 required a little scrubbing to clean. The Glock I could have wiped with a dry paper towel and it would've been clean. If the bullets are sized correctly (.452) and the lead is proper hardness (pure clip on wheel weights) and the load data is sensible (it is in this case) you won't have problems. Good lube helps too. I use a 50/50 mix of Moly axle grease and beeswax. Heated right below flashpoint, then mixed and poured into tubes for the lubesizer.

It's not that you 'can't' shoot lead thru a stock Glock barrel.....It's you 'shouldn't.' And it was nothing to do with reloads, as every manufacturer suggests not shooting reloads. Glock rifling isn't designed for FMJ. I've been thru Glock's armorer class, Instructors workshop and Advanced armorers class and this is stressed in all 3 courses. It is also stressed in the instructors workshop, the we stress this when teaching new Glock armorers.

That being said, IF, as you mentioned, the lead is hard enough (somewhere upwards of 30 on the brinell scale) you could get by, providing your barrel isn't shot out. But me? I only run FMJ's in my Glocks.

I've been known to run harder lead through my 19 and VP9 - on my IDPA loads. 3.2gr of titegroup behind a 147gr pill. I use a mortar sight taped to the frame to lob the rounds in . Typically I run bluebullets though, or Xtreme if I'm out of the blue stuff. When I do run lead, I just pull the barrel after each stage and run a brush and patch through to clean things up. I've been up to 200 consecutive rounds through a poly barrel without issues. Not saying anyone should; and my loads, as previously mentioned, are very light.

Originally Posted by AcesandEights

It's not that you 'can't' shoot lead thru a stock Glock barrel.....It's you 'shouldn't.' And it was nothing to do with reloads, as every manufacturer suggests not shooting reloads. Glock rifling isn't designed for FMJ. I've been thru Glock's armorer class, Instructors workshop and Advanced armorers class and this is stressed in all 3 courses. It is also stressed in the instructors workshop, the we stress this when teaching new Glock armorers.

That being said, IF, as you mentioned, the lead is hard enough (somewhere upwards of 30 on the brinell scale) you could get by, providing your barrel isn't shot out. But me? I only run FMJ's in my Glocks.

I agree about "no reloads through guns". Every company has this warning. If I didn't reload I probably wouldn't shoot. Casting and reloading gets my ammo down to very low cost to enable me to shoot more. A lot more. I am still shooting centerfire cheaper then rimfire.

Has anyone put any lead through one of the new Gen 5 Glocks yet? Thinking about picking one up next month unless I can talk myself into picking up one of those RO Elites.

Originally Posted by EMC45

If I didn't reload I probably wouldn't shoot. Casting and reloading gets my ammo down to very low cost to enable me to shoot more. A lot more. I am still shooting centerfire cheaper then rimfire.

Same for me. I don't cast my own though. I've thought about getting into it but I do prefer some kind of coating simply because of how dirty lead tends to be (indoor range, lead dust, etc). That being said, the cost of the previously mentioned blue bullets, at $0.07 each, still keep the cost under 50% of a retail box of 147gr. I do shoot a LOT more than before I started reloading, and I still spend a bit less than I used to.

Went shooting yesterday. Shot some .38 Special, .45 ACP and some .32 S&W-L. Also shot some 12ga slugs, buck and birdshot. Fore end on my ancient 870 was binding up on the ejection stroke so that went in the trash when I got home. I had other older stocks for it, so it went back to all wood. Go to the range and the Armorer's 870 doesn't run right......What is this world coming too?

I was seeing what guns will be best for the turkey shoot next weekend. I want the turkey or ham. Hopefully bologna is not in the cards this time....

Did some Caahving tonight.ll.l

That's Pumpkin Caahving.....

Enjoy.