Thread: Guns Guns and MORE Guns

There's been chat on other places I go about cheap guns. Personally I woukd never turn away from a gun, I am a believer that with some effort almost every gun can be functional.

Thoughts?

Originally Posted by TheGeek

There's been chat on other places I go about cheap guns. Personally I woukd never turn away from a gun, I am a believer that with some effort almost every gun can be functional.

Thoughts?

Absolutely agree and often far more than functional. My daughter’s first gun that I bought her was a Rock Island 1911 and I paid 250 for it used. Did some work on it and changed a few parts. That cheap gun is 100% reliable and the trigger is as good as any of my Wilsons. It is also extremely accurate, as accurate as it can be with GI sights.

Had a KelTec P3AT that was my backup/pocket gun when I was in the Detective Bureau, a 220 dollar gun that I would bet my life on and that never failed me.

My GSG1911 is/was a cheap gun, I’ve replaced a lot and done a lot of work on it and it is a fantastic plate table gun.

Have friends with very inexpensive guns that are just as they came from the factory and are very reliable, accurate guns.

I certainly believe that you get what you pay for but at times we are lucky and get far more than what we paid for.

Originally Posted by apipeguy

Absolutely agree and often far more than functional. My daughter’s first gun that I bought her was a Rock Island 1911 and I paid 250 for it used. Did some work on it and changed a few parts. That cheap gun is 100% reliable and the trigger is as good as any of my Wilsons. It is also extremely accurate, as accurate as it can be with GI sights.

Had a KelTec P3AT that was my backup/pocket gun when I was in the Detective Bureau, a 220 dollar gun that I would bet my life on and that never failed me.

My GSG1911 is/was a cheap gun, I’ve replaced a lot and done a lot of work on it and it is a fantastic plate table gun.

Have friends with very inexpensive guns that are just as they came from the factory and are very reliable, accurate guns.

I certainly believe that you get what you pay for but at times we are lucky and get far more than what we paid for.

My P3AT goes EVERYWHERE with me. I just changed out the mag springs to Xtra power Wolff springs.

Originally Posted by EMC45

My P3AT goes EVERYWHERE with me. I just changed out the mag springs to Xtra power Wolff springs.

Sold mine many years ago to my son-in-law that couldn’t really afford a new one and he got a very good price, replaced it with a Ruger LCP but I mainly carry a Sig P238 if I only grab a little gun for a quick trip to the hardware store.

Originally Posted by apipeguy

Sold mine many years ago to my son-in-law that couldn’t really afford a new one and he got a very good price, replaced it with a Ruger LCP but I mainly carry a Sig P238 if I only grab a little gun for a quick trip to the hardware store.

The P238 is a great gun. The security lead at our church has one and he let me shoot it. Like a baby 1911 on roller bearings.

My P3AT is my second. My first was all black with the pocket clip. Sold it for what I paid for it after I had it for many years. Guy HAD to have it. He paid my asking price and we were both happy. This one I got off my buddy who has a pawnshop. $170 OTD for it. It's grey and blued. Well one side is blue. The other side of the slide is a dull silver color due to riding against my hip for all these years. I run FMJ ball in it and the spare magazine in my pocket. When I shoot it for practice I use a Lee 102gr. .356 bullet over Bullseye powder.

Every few months I tear it down and get all the lint and denim fuzz out of it and oil/grease it back up and back to action.

Originally Posted by TheGeek

There's been chat on other places I go about cheap guns. Personally I woukd never turn away from a gun, I am a believer that with some effort almost every gun can be functional.

Thoughts?

I agree 100%! A little elbow grease and effort and even the old dogs can be made to run right.

I got a Remington Model 11 many years ago as a basket case. Guy said "I'm only selling this for parts, I don't recommend you shoot it". I paid $60 USD for it and after looking it over, I was shooting it in the next few days. I put $60 more dollars into it and now I shoot it all the time! I had to buy a new friction ring, keeper screw, and a semi fitted buttstock. After tearing it down (it was full of dog hair and quail feathers and years of crud) and cleaning it I was pleased with my handiwork. I fit the stock and put a little linseed oil on it and there it is.

I called Remington and gave them the serial number and they told me it was made in 1914. I think she's got a few more years in her.

I break down my 938 about once a month as well. Especially if i pocket carry much.

Originally Posted by TheGeek

There's been chat on other places I go about cheap guns. Personally I woukd never turn away from a gun, I am a believer that with some effort almost every gun can be functional.

Thoughts?

"Functional", yes. Reliable and precise, well that's a whole different story.

Originally Posted by TheGeek

There's been chat on other places I go about cheap guns. Personally I woukd never turn away from a gun, I am a believer that with some effort almost every gun can be functional.

Thoughts?

I worked in a LGS for a few years and there are several guns that made me cringe. Most around the $200-250 mark BNIB. The Taurus PT111/Millenium G2 was one of those guns that I wouldn't trust my life with. I'd accept it if it was given to me, but it would probably get thrown in a glove box and forgotten about. I can actually drop the magazine using my trigger finger, have had magazines drop free due to recoil and had trigger safeties fail.The SCCY CPX-2 was another one that I hated selling. They seemed to be reliable enough...but had the ergonomics of a brick and weren't pleasant to shoot. I saw a some pretty gnarly slide bite from those as well.

On the other side of the coin, Rock River/Armscorr make very nice 1911s for the money. Their 2011 stands out for me. I've seen a guy shoot circles around people with STIs with one of those (heavily modified, of course, but the cost of admission is a huge bonus).