I could never carry a firearm in that position,,, I don't have room for both,,,;)
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I could never carry a firearm in that position,,, I don't have room for both,,,;)
Seriously, I am right-handed, but always holster, carry on my left side, grips forward. Getting to it while sitting, car, etc, had been an issue until doing this. Reach on over! Actually quicker for me, anyway. JMO
I wear my CCW IWB on my right hip @ 4:00 to 4:30. With my seat belt on it is too slow to get to, if I can get to it at all. My Ford Focus ZX3 has a compartment with a door like a glove compartment but made to hold compact discs. It is to the left of the steering wheel towards the bottom of the dash, quickly and easily accessible. Inside there are no CDs, just a Kahr P380 with an extended magazine. :)
I had a kydex guy to actually make me a holster for my suburban, I'll have to get a pic and show it. I agree, drawing from 4-5 oclock is impossible with seat belt, so I had to find another way.
Galco S.O.B. Colt Commander Elite works perfect for CCW. The car has right hand center console holster works very well.
I have a genuine question: why do you carry?
I'm from Sweden, and it's illegal to carry a weapon here, unless you're a police officer, etc. It might be because of this, but the thought of actually carrying a gun when I'm out and going about feels extremely foreign, and, I don't know, unnessecary? I'm not out to say it's wrong or anything! I'm just interested in the motives behind carrying a gun.
Is it because you feel there's a serious threat against you? Do you live in a bad neighbourhood? Is it because it feels nice/manly/whatever? Are you an enthusiast/collector, and just like I like to shave everyday - even though I don't really have to - you want to "use" your guns, because of your interest? Is there another motive alltogether?
Thank you! :)
There are many reasons we carry. Some people have had problems in the past, some carry large deposits from business some just like to there are as many reasons as there are people who carry . Personally I feel it's my responsibility. If necessary I am willing to do what I must to defend myself, family, friends and even a perfect stranger. I have been carried so long I feel naked without it. I carry almost all the time (even at home). 30 years of carrying and I have never needed it, I hope for 30 more. Regardless I will carry until I die
I can only speak for myself here. I started to carry for two reasons. In 1988 I was returning from work threw the city of Tacoma Wa. We were stuck at a stop light and on opposite sides of the street, two separate groups of people were screaming back and forth. Just as the light turned green, there was a loud bang and a thump on our van. We continued on our way happy to be done with our day. It was when we arrived at the van pool and I went to get my lunch box that I noticed a nice hole in the door and seat from where a bullet passed threw. I am still thankful no one was in the back seat that night. fast foreword a year, While returning after work to my hotel just south of down town Seattle, my car was approached by what I assumed were hooker. I wouldn't roll down my windows or talk to them. Without warning, some guy came up to the door and tried to yank it open while flashing the gun he had under his coat.
I also like to spend my extra time outdoors Hiking, Hunting and Fishing. One of my favorite spots happens to be in the North Cascades. On an outing in the late 80's, we were on a trail when we heard a bunch of yelling. When we got to where all the commotion, we seen that a man and his wife we between a Sow bear and her cubs. I think the cubs were trying to get to their mother but were afraid of the couple and in turn moma bear was trying to get to her cubs. We were able to get above the bears and we able to scare her away but what if we hadn't come along? So I purchased the biggest handgun I could afford. A few years later while transporting my firearm, an officer happened to notice I had it in my back seat in a case. He explained that for my best interest I should get a cc lic. and by that time I had a child on the way. It just made sense for me to have it.
As far as how it feels, physically I really don't notice that I have it. I really do not think it makes me feel more manly and I pity any man that it did. I see it as a tool that I would use if I needed it.
I also like the comradery that shooting sports brings. I am not sure if they have Airsoft guns in Sweden, but if they do I would urge to to purchase one. They are just a spring loaded gun that fires a plastic BB. They seem to be safe enough to use even indoors and often they come with a target. After you get one, invite your friends over and watch what happens, Before you know it you will be laughing and trying to out do each other.
Wow, ok. That sounds really scary! I can understand wanting protection (no matter if in the city or in the wilderness).
I shot some skeet a couple of years ago, and I can agree that it's a great comradery. I haven't tried Airsoft guns (I've heard of them, though). I'll check around to see if I can find a retailer!
I got 2 hours on a shooting range from my brother when I turned 21 a couple of years ago, and we shot a Walter PPK, a Glock 19, a Colt 1911, a Magnum .357 and a Magnum .44 as well as an old Tommy Gun. It was a lot of fun, and I've been thinking about trying shooting sports since then. The 1911 had a great feel to it. Not as "snappy" as the Glock. It felt more confident, both from just holding it and when shooting it. As if it never would let you down. Great feeling!
But ok, enough of derailing of this thread. Thanks again. :)
Better late than never I've got the pictures of the Garrett industries silent thunder slim. The longer I wear it and the closer I look the more I like. Its comfy, high quality, secure, exact fit, Attachment 187943and silky smooth drawAttachment 187944Attachment 187945Attachment 187945with the ruger sr1911c Attachment 187946
Your genuine interest is appreciated actually, you were not offensive in any way. Every country has it's quirks, here in the U.S.A. one of our quirks is that most of the countrymen have a firearm in their home at a minimum and the concealed carry people are growing leaps and bounds. It's like a insurance policy, you never need it until "something" happens. Only the other day I used my concealed carry weapon to dispatch a skunk that had gotten into my chain link fenced yard. It would have taken me minutes to have gone into the house and to have entered the safe & return to dispatch it...all I had to do was draw and it was quickly dispatched before it could have sprayed or worse have bitten my German Shepherds (worried about rabies even though they are vaccinated). Besides...it's much cheaper and lighter than carrying a police officer in your pocket!
I carry because after 32 years of shooting/reloading/gun wrenching/11 years Military service I feel confident in my skill level and abilities to handle myself as a professional and take care of what needs taking care of. Also I never want to cower in a corner repeating over and over again "I wish I had my gun". I have sent 10s of thousands of rounds down range in training, recreation and qualification and rest assured it was not in vain.
This is actually an excellent answer. Thank you. I felt it as if I would come off as offensive, since I know that lots of people in Sweden have a hard time understanding the need/want to carry a gun.
And haha. That sounds like a good use for it. We don't have a problem with skunks, or hardly any animals at all.
That sounds fair enough. People need to take their own responsibility and stand up for our fellow people in cases of emergency. I don't know if a gun is the necessary answer, but if it is one answer that works I can see its use.
I too will say that reasonable questions of understanding are NOT offensive. Different counties have different habits/traits. Here in the U.S.A., different states have different habits/traits. Understanding is a universal quest.
I frequently CCW. When I was a young child, my parents helped to prosecute some "bad people". There were credable threats to my safety as a young teen. I learned how to use my environment for safety (no I did not CCW as a teen). When I was old enough, I learned to handle weapons safely and to treat them as tools. Handguns have a purpose, much like a hammer or a knife. If used safely/properly they all serve a purpose. When used foolishly they can harm people. No newspaper will lead with a story about someone smashing their hand flat with a hammer because they did not respeect the hammer....
As an adult, I CCW because of some of the environments/neighborhoods I have to travel through (not always by choice but necessity). I train not only on a "square" range, but on "360" ranges. I train with situations too.
Shooting is a skil set. Much like bowling or golf. If you let your skills slide, you loose them.
CCW is a personal choice and (it should be) a lifestyle choice. It (should be) a commitment to learning your trade craft.
I personally appreciate inteligent questions of understanding and welcome them! Understanding leads to a beter life for everyone. Thanks for asking your question.
Sorry I did not get into this thread sooner.
Uh, it may be small for some people, but I guarantee, if I pulled it out on a scumbag, he/she would most likely run, if they were smart and/or convinced that I had every intention to use it. If they tried to call my bluff, they would catch quite a few hollows in the face, crotch, wherever I decided to hit them. It would kill you from the internal bleeding pretty quickly. I carry nasty rounds to make up for the size.
Center mass, center mass ,center mass.....I always train for center mass in my primary training this reduces the likely hood of a malicious intent civil suit.cheers -CAM-
The choice of what to carry is a personal choice. If you are uncomfortable with the tools you carry, the tools will do you no good (no matter how large or small). While I will carry a full frame 1911, I am taller than "normal" and larger bodied than most (62" long suit coat). I have ham hocks for hands.
For some people, simply due to physical size not skill set, a 1911 will be too much. Their physical size will not CONCEAL a 1911, defeating CCW. Other people are simply not comfortable with a 1911.
I have a friend that can shoot out the center of a target at 20 yards with a 9mm but he struggles to hit the paper with my 1911. I would much prefer he carry a 9mm rather than a 1911.
I am able to carry a larger frame gun and am more comfortable with a larger frame. I will use what I am comfortable with. While it is obvious a .32 will do less damage when compared to a .45 (hitting the same body mass area), hitting with a .32 is much better than missing with a .45.
Using the right tool for the job at hand and wisely controlling your tools is the first step in CCW.
Choose wisely, train wisely, act prudently.... Have a much better 2015 than 2014 and may 2016 be better still
What would you suggest for the financially challenged but in need of a CCW. A coworker as recently been elected president of a couple political organizations (yes he's crazy but two presidencies and a board member at the same time), and because of it has received several threats. He's a mostly retired disabled vet and funds are very tight. His experience with firearms extends to hunting rifles from the early 1980's so he asked for suggestions on budget firearm for self defense, and possible CCW. His budget is under $300, reliable, readily available ammo, and arthritis friendly controls (recoil he's fine with but some safeties and take downs can be problematic). I suggested a used S&W J frame, the Taurus 85, possibly a used glock, and possibly the SCCY. Is there anything that you'd suggest him checking out that I have forgotten?
DISCLAIMER : The police have been notified of the threats, and he is taking as many steps as possible to avoid undue risk. He has taken his CCW class and license should be available early January, he is proficient but inexperianced with firearms. As for budget he'd like to spend more but unfortunately on his small fixed income it he is unable, though he does plan on purchasing a better ccw once he's had some time.
New Taurus 38 snub nosed revolver
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I too would suggest a revolver in 38 spcl. They are simple with no extra gadgets/gizmos. A Glock does not have a safety to try and get hung up on but a good used Glock is not really inexpensive. I would try and avoid models such as Beretta's with the external mechanical safety. One more thing to try and manipulate.
While I know many people have had good luck with Taurus handguns, I would encourage a trusted gunsmith check battery on any Taurus bought. I would offer the opinion that battery be checked yearly. I have seen a couple of Taurus revolvers that have gotten out of battery.
38 and 9mm are about as easy to find as anything. 22 is not cheep any more and I would rather a vet be able to properly defend himself.
Does your friend have access to guns to try out at a range to see what he likes and is comfortable with? This might also help him make a choice. Feel free to PM if you have more (specific) questions. I will be happy to try and answer what I can.
As with most opinions: most of them smell like armpits and the bottom of feet and mine sometimes stink worse than others. :gl:
Some good points made. If arthritis is an issue I'd also opt for the snub nose revolver. Something like a hammerless S&W that won't snag a pocket. Used of course. I'm sort of prejudiced against Taurus because of the lack of QC in past years, I suppose they've improved over the past decade though.
No not believe in CCW,Think it is a bad thing.
Pack an old SS S&W wheelgun in my Tackle box when fishing,100 percent legal Even in Calif.
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FYI Mr. Pixel,,,, carrying a firearm around in your tackle box,,, is CCW,,,, :roflmao
"Mr. Officer, I'm not carrying it, my tacklebox is." :rofl2:
Yep, yep, I do believe that is still considered a form of concealed carry in the eyes of the law.
I do believe you are G2G while its in your trunk, or bed of truck, while driving to your favorite fishing grounds, but once you pick it up and start carrying it, it's concidered concealed. Not much difference than if it were in a fanny pack, backpack, or some other kind of "man purse".
OP was mentioning cheap is why I listed the Taurus. I do have to say their customer service is awesome as I had to send my Judge off to them and they not only fixed it (battery issue), but worked over the trigger too.
For Christmas I bought my wife a S&W hammer-less 38special in the "airweight" version (I have the full stainless version) for $400 NIB. It's 14.5 oz empty.
I plan to find a good S&W dao gunsmith though, the trigger is really heavy and rough compared to mine. SHe loves it though & that's all that matters as her Glock 26 is just getting too hard for her to rack the slide with her arthritis/carpul tunnel. Shooting 95GR hollow points, the recoil isn't any different than the glock 26 with quality self defense ammo.
Dry fire the S&W revolver a lot; my 686+ was heavy and gritty until I dry fired and real fired the heck out of it, smoothed out very nicely! There are also companies that make reduced power rebound slide springs and whole trigger/mainspring kits to reduce/clean up the trigger pull.
I picked up a S&W 327 PC 2", 2.5" 386 PD (Both titanium cylinder, scandium frames). The 327 got a new SS cylinder because the previous owner had flame cut the front of the Ti cylinder and the 386 is still at S&W. The Ti cylinder is defective and the brass is extremely difficult to remove after firing, will most likely get a new SS cylinder for it. The 386PD was 18oz with the Titanium is OK with 38 Special +P and brutal with the Ahrends grips with anything more. I put the rubber grip that covers the backstrap from my 686+ 3" steel gun from this past Spring onto it, much better now! The 327 isn't bad at all with 125gr .357 magnum Golden Sabers or the Speer Gold Dot 135 Sort Barrel .357's or other mid level .357's. Full magnums it's a handful! The 327 had some light strike issues as well, but those seem to be fixed now and is in my CCW rotation.
Also picked up a new 9mm Shield this week for smaller CCW piece when I am not packing a 1911 or .357 revolver (L frame or N Frame)
I've heard a lot of good about S&W automatics, but I can't get past the bad taste they put in my mouth years ago with the 39 & 59 (i think) series of pistols. I could throw a rock more accurately than those models & at that time S&W customer service was lacking to say the least. This Shield has a lot of guys talking, maybe Smith got it right this time...